tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post4672875952237369654..comments2023-08-04T00:31:05.621-04:00Comments on DFQ2: The Donkeyman Cometh, Assange Probably Trapped by CIA Honeypot, and a Geoengineering MoratoriumTokyo Shemphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01764134901412321022noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-17922089482665810292010-12-20T16:23:15.277-05:002010-12-20T16:23:15.277-05:00Dumbassery? For gloating about Pfiore saying we we...Dumbassery? For gloating about Pfiore saying we were right and her creepy friends were wrong? Matbe I wasn't funny telling her I'd marry her no questions asked, but what I wrote wasn't stupid.<br /><br />There's a reason why I'm attacked more than anyone else. I have presented the best case showing that such fake ex-koskops indeed never left the force. Once a koskop, always a koskop.<br /><br />You said something good yesterday. We are going to be blames regardless of what the truth is.<br /> <br />Yes we are. And Al Franken and but, but, but Clinton too. <br /><br />Dave's sister had no problem with this blog's name. Otherwise, I would have changed it.<br /><br />The most riotous thing to emerge over the last week was your stunning endorsement for Ron Paul as a candidate for the disillusioned left. <br /><br />By the way, maybe donkeytale can tell the public more about how he once told me he feels there is something fishy with some of those contrails.<br /> <br />Whatever donkeytale with your putdowns and obnoxious more enlightened than thou disposition.<br /><br />Too bad you can't hjust be yourself and make points without6 eventually always trying to make others feel like shit; hence, there could be good reason to believe you have sadist tendencies. Also, you'd be in good stead to heed my armchair psychology, for in 1947 I received a PhD. in that discipline from Parade Magazine University.<br /> <br />Whatever dude. I'm over WITR, while you're probably still there acting like any of them mean anything.<br /> <br />They are the epitome of nothing. <br /><br />We actually won in that little exchange. They have been exposed for being Koskops. Pfiore links to them, says it doesn't matter, they all either ignore what happened with Dave, the UGOG's and their relationship to right wing tv, etc.. They cooked their own goose.Tokyo Shemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764134901412321022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-23400415079515686452010-12-20T15:56:48.286-05:002010-12-20T15:56:48.286-05:00Sorry anonymous, I don't give out my personal ...Sorry anonymous, I don't give out my personal email due to spam and creeps. If you have anything you'd like to say, I can read it right here, and then delete it if you don't want it to remain posted. But then what would be the point?<br /><br />I also have a blog linked to in my profile. That one has a private message feature, though I'm even wary of that sort of thing. Email's nice but not with strangers, imho. It can even be a hassle with people you know. Like cell phones. Good luck to the chumps who carry those other for business purposes.Tokyo Shemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764134901412321022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-48861087680823641132010-12-20T08:49:28.918-05:002010-12-20T08:49:28.918-05:00Apparently, you were the only one banned at WITR, ...Apparently, you were the only one banned at WITR, even though you were the most superfluous part of the story, and guilty there only of dumbassery in the thread where you felt compelled to gloat over my "manipulating" P8 to dress down her own Asshats.<br /><br />You asked for the resoonse she gave you.<br /><br />You were banned for your so-called heinous remarks to Melvin at Pffugee. While what you said was stupidly playing into their hands, I of course defended and will continue to defend you. Its not a crime to be a hysterical blog idiot.<br /><br />And Melvin was guilty of goading you by purposely desecrating your relationship with Dave, who was a real leftist and with whom you participated in real acts of dissidence right into the face of the PTB <br /><br />Dude, figure it out. The truth is there for all to see. You don't need to continually restate the obvious.<br /><br />Its killing your own muse, more than anything you are doing to hurt "them."<br /><br />Thus spake donkeythustra..donkeytalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18088569929621857499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-6925910919413513672010-12-20T05:24:26.224-05:002010-12-20T05:24:26.224-05:00Socrates what is an email address for you? I have ...Socrates what is an email address for you? I have something you will like.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-17779404833543898802010-12-19T23:52:45.033-05:002010-12-19T23:52:45.033-05:00Assange now a SNL punchline.
"Remember, no m...Assange now a SNL punchline.<br /><br />"Remember, no matter how I die, its murder." They even did a bit on him as TMZ host.<br /><br />Remember, you read it here first. donkeytale owns the zeitgeist.<br /><br />Assange is an asshat, that much is abundantly clear. Great idea invented elsewhere, marketed extraordinarily well by him, great, epic historic feed by Manning.<br /><br />Manning is the hero. Cant say enough about the man.<br /><br />I'm not debunking anything related to the US Govt trying to find a way to indict Assange. Holder already said they were. Soc, youve been just another hysterical pwoggie buying all the hype on this story.<br /><br />They wont come up with anything constitutional and even in the event they proceed with an indictment, they wont be able to extradite him.<br /><br />I already mentioned the Polanski connection last week sometime in a thread somewhere.<br /><br />Assange is in like Flynt.donkeytalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18088569929621857499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-39066956267962037662010-12-19T02:53:21.088-05:002010-12-19T02:53:21.088-05:00Thanks for the post. I hope all is well.
I think ...Thanks for the post. I hope all is well.<br /><br />I think it's too early in the game to know for sure whether the two topics are unrelated.<br /><br />I'm willing to concede probably isn't the appropriate word. I went with that because of Ardin's authentic ties to the CIA or its "civilian" regime change affiliate.<br /><br />Ut's similar to when we found out about Giordano's ties to Freedom House and the others.<br /> <br />You make a good point that the "rape" cases need to stand on their own regardless of Wikileaks. It's just all the available info trends towards it having been a set up.<br /> <br />The timing is strange, as you allude to. <br /><br />Maybe those ladies thought they could find a get rich quick scheme, eventually get some kind of Assange settlement money. <br /><br />Word is the US wants to proceed with espionage charges. Donkeytale is debunking that by saying the only people talking that up are from the Assange camp.<br /><br />One thing I wouldn't mind hearing from you TLNL is what significance you place on the actual leaks. To me they seem fairly substantial. Perhaps the ptb's are looking at this as a put out the smoke before it becomes a fire with future leaks.Tokyo Shemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764134901412321022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-7372844586396876062010-12-19T00:04:27.691-05:002010-12-19T00:04:27.691-05:00A good Guardian article on Assange here
I find th...A good Guardian article on Assange <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/18/julian-assange-allegations-wikileaks-cables" rel="nofollow">here</a><br /><br />I find this to be the most sympathetic part: <br /><br /><b>a colleague of Assange in Stockholm, who knows both women, said that Sweden was pursuing a "normal police investigation" and said that while WikiLeaks' enemies may exploit the case, "it's not the CIA sending a woman in a short skirt". UK author Joan Smith told the Observer that there was a disturbing "Polanski" effect among people who didn't know Assange.<br /><br />"It's like Julian and the WikiLeaks – a new boy band, that's turned into a phenomenon of celebrity. But people who assert the innocence of a man they have never met are on dangerous ground. It's that rush to judgement which is so extraordinary.<br /><br />"Sexual manners and sexual conduct come in for careful consideration in Sweden and on the whole I rather approve."</b><br /><br />I had been thinking of Polanski. <br /><br />The idea that rape victims might be "CIA honeypots" is really offensive and people operating on that assumption seem determined to undermine the women's word in rape cases generally. Allegations of rape have to be taken seriously, even though Swedish legal term of rape seems quite different to what most of us accept "rape" to mean. <br /><br />At the same time, what we have seen is Assange jailed over allegations of rape (in a foreign country) right after he began releasing highly embarassing and damaging communiques between "the community of nations" and the USA. <br /><br />It shouldn't be a surprise Assange has been "persecuted". At the same time, we shouldn't assume the allegations of rape are necessarily part of any such persecution - the women (all women) deserve better than that and anyway, Assange's personal behaviour has nothing to do with the content of what he leaks. It's a sideshow - a distraction - though one that might be perfectly legitimate for the women concerned. The two things need separating - Assange's personal sexual conduct and the content of the leaks are nothing to do with one another.the_last_name_lefthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276770064991215910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-63573759983453920652010-12-17T19:46:41.579-05:002010-12-17T19:46:41.579-05:00There's some pretty weird stuff coming our of ...There's some pretty weird stuff coming our of WITR. Cometman, Melvin, and Diane continue with their angry, paranoid shrieking. Pfiore8 is turning out to be a good cop bad cop all in one. She told those guys to knock it off in a new diary. She claims they proved us whackjobs have been correct. But then in another post to me she basically called me a loser and explained why I'm considered the lowest of the low in the blogosphere. And I thought I was good at playing Eddie Haskell. She's the best at it. The difference however is I don't hide the fact I'm going Eddie Haskell on anyone. She does it without even realising she has some kind of contradition mechanism wired into her brain.Tokyo Shemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764134901412321022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-31297778442166924042010-12-17T19:21:25.310-05:002010-12-17T19:21:25.310-05:00You are certainly underrated with your ability to ...You are certainly underrated with your ability to bring equilibrium to a thread. Well-played, Mr. Bond.<br /><br />I think I need a nap after going on a posting frenzy at Granny Writing. The only thing missing is The Last Name Left. He would certainly bring some fresh air to the table. And the blogmaids wouldn't have a clue how to include him into their paranoid, whackjob schtick. <br /> <br />My fear is there is no way to know what will remain at WITR and what will be deleted.<br /><br />I found a picture of Pfiore and just posted it at pffugee. She posted it herself for her firedoglake profile page, so I figured it was ok to repost it.<br /><br />And thanks go to Melvin and Cometman for showing their angry, sadistic sides. Now if nothing on that thread gets deleted, they have certainly cooked their own goose.Tokyo Shemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764134901412321022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-61304376585372560732010-12-17T18:35:27.681-05:002010-12-17T18:35:27.681-05:00The point his criticism of the Corvair is what mad...The point his criticism of the Corvair is what made him semi-famous, but it was not based on valid scientific research or findings. It was dishonest. Fake. A publicity stunt. Thus, Nadir is a perfect leader for the Fake Left.<br /><br />If you believe that the Corvair was too unsafe to drive, then according to the NTSB in 1072, all vehicles should have been banned from the roads in the 1960s.<br /><br />I agree that the overreaction by GM is what made him, just as the overreaction by the US Govt made Assange today.<br /><br />Hows that for neatly bring this thread back to the topic at hand?<br /><br />[:o)donkeytalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18088569929621857499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-69813906733583119122010-12-17T16:36:43.916-05:002010-12-17T16:36:43.916-05:00Thanks for getting a link from a major news chain ...Thanks for getting a link from a major news chain to discuss Nader's Corvair thingie.<br /><br />Oh wait, I thought that was <i>Associated Press</i>. No, this is Associated Content. Hmmmmm.<br /> <br />What you did was cherry pick from an article written by Elliot Feldman of the Yahoo! Contributor Network. <br /><br />So what if the Corvair wasn't that much worse than other cars on the market at the time? There was a definite problem with the vehicles. I thought you were on to proving Nader made the whole thing up.<br /> <br />His work led to that safety board being created and safer cars.<br /> <br />The Corvair was only covered in the first chapter anyway. According to the article, it was GM who was responsible for propelling Nader into celebrity and icon status. Thus your attempt to denigrate Ralph Nader has turned into an epic fail. <br /><br /><b>(excerpt) Even though the indictment against the Corvair was only covered in the first chapter of "Unsafe at Any Speed", the negative publicity caused irreparable damage to Corvair sales. This put Ralph Nader high on GM's enemies' list.<br /><br />In their infinite wisdom, General Motors hired private detectives to follow Nader and snoop into his personal life and finances. They even tried to tempt him with hookers, and they tried to convince the new media that Nader was a homosexual. When the auto giant's dirty tricks were exposed, this only served to propel Ralph Nader and his burgeoning social justice movement to national celebrity and icon stature.<br /><br />Nader eventually sued GM for invasion of privacy and settled out of court for $425,000.</b>Tokyo Shemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764134901412321022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-37604242866297150402010-12-17T16:25:08.400-05:002010-12-17T16:25:08.400-05:00I've been unjustly pinned as a historic troll....I've been unjustly pinned as a historic troll. I was shocked how FSZ turned out. My Left Wing made sense after the fact, just like Daily Kos.<br /><br />Pfiore8, I just don't know. I have no clue who she is or what her blogging has been like or how she accumulated all these people digging her blog.<br /> <br />I'll assume she is like Docudrahmaqueen, just another person from DKOS who branched off yet like MSOC never put together in their thick heads that something stunk big time about DKos and forums in general.<br /><br />I turned charming with that girl for a few reasons. I can forgive her if she went conformist piling on initially due to a character flaw. Melvin and Cometman have stopped trolling Pfiore's board. Maybe she is hot in real life. I kind of like her idealistic, soapbox preaching. It moves that part of me William Be Holden to leftier than thouism . <br /><br />I also had to find a way to segue the fock away from my going apeshit on her at Pffugee schtick.<br /><br />Basically, I was lucky that after all the edits and fixing typos, what I wrote was actually kind of a good read. I hate to sound pompous. But for real. Connecting Hickey to proselytising to your fake left schtick worked. Then I brought in the Assange. I was able to tie it to Giordano and eventually Kos. <br /><br />So maybe I have found a formula. Use silly humour as clinching or rope-a-dope. Then counter-punch with hooks and upper-cuts. Cutting out diction is crucial. <br /><br />That guy Ender showed up and it was obvious he wanted to turn it into some goofy right versus left brouhaha schtick having nothing to do with the diary. It took some footwork, but I hit him back hard even linking to the thread at this forum where Giordano showed up. Now that is a topic that truly represents the real left taking on the fake left. Here's the rub. When the real left is replaced, it becomes like they never existed. Then blue dogs and whatnot become the new left. Fairleft astroturfs for racist anti-immigration groups. MSOC advocates tax cuts for the rich. Even a guy like Ender has tried to make it seem he is a lefty for a conservative. One of the reasons I first started to trust you was at DFQ when you admitted you were conservative on certain things. That's the way to know if someone is a troll or not. Just ask them certain questions. If they respond in good faith, for the most part, they are sincere. One can look at Giordano's responses on that thread in question and see he is a historic troll, not the good kind. He acts all leftier than thou but pimped for John McCain. Wow.<br /> <br />I think you're wrong about Nader. I'll get to that next.Tokyo Shemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764134901412321022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-71508701327631011652010-12-17T11:30:46.851-05:002010-12-17T11:30:46.851-05:00Oh yeah, and regarding Ralph Nadir's BS? Here,...Oh yeah, and regarding Ralph Nadir's BS? Here, I'll do your home work for you:<br /><br />"And now the question: Was the Corvair really unsafe at any speed?<br /><br />The answer: The 1960-1963 Corvair models targeted by Nader were at least as safe as comparable car models sold in those years. This conclusion, ironically, came from a 1972 study by the National Highway Traffic Safety."<br /><br />http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/350045/was_the_corvair_really_unsafe_at_any.html?cat=27<br /><br />Any more fake lefty BS you want me to debunk? Please send your questions in writing.donkeytalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18088569929621857499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-29170648530066865922010-12-17T10:34:43.839-05:002010-12-17T10:34:43.839-05:00And not to kiss your tush any more than I need to,...And not to kiss your tush any more than I need to, but yes I have chuckled scrolling down that photo and caption.<br /><br />Your photo/caption on my last one pretty good too: "Hey now Fake Left"<br /><br />RIOTOUS!<br /><br />I feel like you are back, you are rejuvenated and you are on fire.<br /><br />Now stay calm and try not to overdue it.<br /><br />[:o)donkeytalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18088569929621857499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-40380657449944739632010-12-17T10:22:29.222-05:002010-12-17T10:22:29.222-05:00Well, you done good, regardless of how much sleep ...Well, you done good, regardless of how much sleep you lost. Sleep is overrated. Unless you are really tired.<br /><br />The thread on WITR is already a classic. This is exactly what PFF was like at its best. 1930s screwball comedy transferred to a soapblox thread.<br /><br />You'll note that I came up with THE gold standard definition for "fake left" and you are crackling on fire in the thread, especially your shameless 180 on Pfiore 8 and the ratings.<br /><br />RIOTOUS!<br /><br />Thats worth a call out diary on its own. Simply cut n paste you jumping her shit at pffugee one day, then down on your knees sucking her dick the next.<br /><br />Greatness. Pure greatness.<br /><br />I hope you dont mind me poking a little fun at you with our mates at pffugee......you come off looking rather gallant, leading man style at the end of the day, in any event. Cary Grant couldnt have done it better.donkeytalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18088569929621857499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-31445307751189165242010-12-16T17:52:45.835-05:002010-12-16T17:52:45.835-05:00It's all good with a bag of 0 transfat chips.
...It's all good with a bag of 0 transfat chips.<br /><br />You're doing well despite your eliding of apostrophes. My intent wasn't to destroy your Assange schtick.<br /><br />I agree you are finding things to show he is not some Mother Theresa of historic trolls, more like salty sailor.<br /><br />I took all your advice and put this entry up accordingly at Pffugee and WITR. I cleaned up diction and typos. What I'm most disappointed in your responses is that you've had nothing to say about Al from Happy Days. I think he was also named Murray the cop on the Odd Couple. So is my screenshot of him funny, a product placement, or both?<br /><br />I'll let you in on something, my historic troll friend. I had many a sleepless night wondering how to write this piece. I'm shocked it came out as good as it did. I think my humour-infotainment level has risen due to your influence. I have listened to your advise. A lot of it I have taken to heart. Other aspects I've thought of Travis Bickle's response to The Wizard. <i>That's got to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard.</i> I like your turning of phrases like troll and whackjob into compliments. Yeah, Assange would be the kind of dude to go bar hopping with. I'd probably have to settle for his leftover chicks. It's tough to compete with a dude with that kind of hair.Tokyo Shemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764134901412321022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-25965693388288153602010-12-16T16:39:20.680-05:002010-12-16T16:39:20.680-05:00Well at least you're not criticizing me for be...Well at least you're not criticizing me for being too flaccid. <br /><br />Blind spots? I have this story nailed between the eyeballs, dude. <br /><br />The zeitgeist is mine I tell you, its all mine!<br /><br />Sure, Roger, er I mean Michael Moore. Right. And if bullshit were currency, I'd be as rich as he. <br /><br />Skinnier and better looking too.<br /><br />I don't know how many more ways I can get through to you on this: I'm not knocking Assange one bit. I like him, especially his more trollish aspects. He's one of us. He'd probably enjoy kicking back with you, Dave and me over a few cold one, watching an Australian rules football game or shooting sme pool, y'know talking little guy smack about eating pussy, or wtf.<br /><br />No doubt.<br /><br />Have you read his 2006 personal ad yet?<br /><br />" # I like women from countries that have sustained political turmoil. Western culture seems to forge women that are valueless and inane. OK. Not only women!<br /># I am DANGER, ACHTUNG, and ??????????????!<br /><br /># Directing a consuming, dangerous human rights project which is, as you might expect, male dominated<br /><br /># I have asian teengirl stalkers. Hello.<br /><br /># Do not write to me if you are timid. I am too busy. Write to me if you are brave."<br /><br />Whats not to love about this guy?donkeytalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18088569929621857499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-31385743556140354272010-12-16T16:14:16.928-05:002010-12-16T16:14:16.928-05:00Oops, almost missed your rebuttal post.
Thanks fo...Oops, almost missed your rebuttal post.<br /><br />Thanks for explaining you missing the point about Social Democrats and Cuba. Wasn't that what happened in <i>Fast Times at Ridgemont High</i>? Something about having some pizza and learning about Cuba?<br /><br />Brief Intermission: That new Prince song is on the radio. I liked it at first, but now I am thinking Prince is merely spamming his old schtick.<br /><br />Ok, we're back live at the Blogarama Arena.<br /> <br />Aaah, I see you respect a good counterpunch. Yes, styles make a fight and always respect the opponent unless it's fairleft or Blues.<br /> <br />I saw you are now stealing my thingie schtick, too. That's ok. I stole that one from a dude named dredd. And I've a suspicion his username isn't actually original.<br /><br />I totally agree with you on Hinduism. Nothing new under the sun. Dejavu all over again. Same as it ever was. That's the ticket or stuff. That reminds me. Maybe you should revive your popular tagline schtick. Remember that thread? The memories. <br /> <br />Yeah, the geoengineering part was kind of a fish out of Wikiwater. I just wanted to mention it. I admit it's kind of boring, that geoengineering stuff. But it's still important. There are actually people who think we can solve anything with technology and so-called progress. Maybe you are correct we need to hit rock bottom before getting back to normal old-school life. That won't be for centuries, imho. <br /><br />I think youj are correct on the Assange thingie for the angles you have taken. I just think you're a bit too rigid and have blind spots. What about what Michael Moore said, how perhaps if we had a Wikileaks back before the Iraq War, it might not have happened? Now there was a real conspiracy called The White House Iraq Group and astroturfed by the Rendon Group and others. What if it leaked out that these fockers had lied or were using lies to start a war with Iraq? <br /> <br />This is why it's so important Assange not become a martyr. It will bring us closer to Orwell's <i>1984</i>. There's not much satisfaction in being aware that things are corrupt and broken. That's what was so bittersweet about that documentary I mentioned on Los Angeles and movies. So heck yeah, we know Hollywood sucks and has distorted hiswtory and abused regular people not so far off from the Egyptians using slavery to build their pyramids. The problem with the fake blogosphere is these chumps actually think they are making a difference. That is so pre-Plamegate. Now there's where I think the internet truly died. Leopold and the fake lefties made the internet look stupid. Only Libby was indicted. The prosecutor fit the image you seem to have on Assange. He said he was like an umpire waiting for the dust to clear from his eyes. When it did, the asshole came up with nothing. Aboslutely nothing. He could have gone after the administration for the illegal war, but he backed off saying it was out of his jurisdiction. Obama turning out to be a fake lefty is really a postscript, just Lucy making Charlie Brown fall on his ass one more time. Fool me once, twice, three times the historic troll kind of stuff. It ain't swell, but there we are.Tokyo Shemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764134901412321022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-56192924194016529722010-12-16T15:43:54.661-05:002010-12-16T15:43:54.661-05:00More like Donkeytale's boring copy and paste p...More like Donkeytale's boring copy and paste posts of today are tomorrow's spam to be spread out across the dying soapblox dynasty.Tokyo Shemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764134901412321022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-87184876934984238082010-12-16T15:08:01.498-05:002010-12-16T15:08:01.498-05:00Still more of yesterday's donkeytale "per...Still more of yesterday's donkeytale "perversely stupid moronity" becoming todays conventional wisdom: <br /><br />"A House committee held its first hearing on the WikiLeaks controversy Thursday, but those on the panel focused mainly on the problem of government over-classification and how, if at all, Congress should revamp the Espionage Act rather than if WikiLeaks editor Julian Assange should face criminal prosecution.<br /><br />Geoffrey Stone, a professor at the University of Chicago Law School, kicked things off by saying that WikiLeaks-related legislation recently introduced by Sen. Joe Lieberman is clearly unconstitutional. The Shield Act would amend the Espionage Act and make it illegal to publish the names of military and intelligence informants, but Stone said that while it might be constitutional to apply that to government employees, applying it to private citizens would violate the First Amendment."<br /><br />http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2374424,00.asp<br /><br />Manning, the govt employee, faces great danger.<br /><br />Assange faces only the danger of media overexposure.donkeytalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18088569929621857499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-83892286632143044782010-12-16T09:18:50.164-05:002010-12-16T09:18:50.164-05:00Assange granted bail.
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C...Assange granted bail.<br /><br />Other items of interest:<br /><br />Continuing a pattern, Assange lawyer/public relations rep admits the rumours of a secret grand jury in the US pondering an indictment of Assange is "pure speculation."<br /><br />A British citizen, Gary Mckinnon, who has admitted hacking into US govt. systems containing secret information, has been in Britain resisting extradition to the US for eight years, even after losing his appeal more than one year ago.<br /><br />Swedish prosecutors state that any decision to extradite Assange from Sweden to a "non- EU " country would, by the rules of the EU, be decided by Britain.donkeytalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18088569929621857499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-59336130379428538832010-12-16T02:56:36.056-05:002010-12-16T02:56:36.056-05:00Yes I was wrong about the Cuban schtick being your...Yes I was wrong about the Cuban schtick being yours. Reading on Blackberry the blockquote framing gets lost somehow. Its not the same view. <br /><br />I have read all that Ardin schtick and I'm still neither convinced nor concerned. I've read lots of Assange schtick. The guy has done good. He is smart and talented. <br /><br />But changing the course of world history good? That's exactly the nonsense I am challenging and lampooning here, not what Assange has actually done or shoukd I say what Manning has done and what Assange has capitalized on. The reaction.<br /><br />I'm the Hal Turner of gayness? RIOTOUS! Good one.<br /><br />The diary was excellent all the way around on the 2nd read thru. I have to confess my riposte comparing Assange to Hugh Hefner is classic greatness too. <br /><br />M<br />I'm just not a fan of the climate stuff. I see it as an unavoidable result of the growth and vitality of humanity, unsolv*ble without a complete collapse, an asteroid strike, nuykular devastation. All the talk about saving the environment. Was it the hindus who believe that the history of man is a series of great boom and bust, Birth death rebirth. Reincarnation for a species.donkeytalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18088569929621857499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-28130138320983039382010-12-16T01:42:46.515-05:002010-12-16T01:42:46.515-05:00I'm not saying I know all that much about Assa...I'm not saying I know all that much about Assange's fake leftiness. You say he is into capitalism. I believe you. But I respect what he came out with concerning the collateral damage war crime video and all these other cables. Assange is a part of a greater group of people who have spoken out about the spy factories and war criminals. I'm not making him into being anything more or less than that.<br /><br />I want to know about the other chick. Ardin has been completely discredited. How'd the other chick get involved? Or maybe there's no info on her or her charges? <br /> <br />You can say Assange is in no danger of being arrested for espionage or whatever by the US. You are rolling the dice. You may be right, and I have said that. But you sound foolish saying this is all a shoo in. It's like sports fans who are counting titles before they've acquired through trash talk. It gets stale.<br /> <br />Assange isn't CIA. The other guy Blues talks about does the rounds with schmucks like Alex Jones and the other conspiracy theory freaks. He's jealous that his cryptome website never came up with squat, while Wikileaks under Assange has done outdone the guy who created this leak schtick. <br /><br />As for your gay refences, I'd rather you keep those to yourself. Not everyone wants to read your perverted thoughts. There are people who are gay and then there are those like yourself who are fake gay. You are the Hal Turner of gayness, trying to flush out the perverts or something.<br /><br />Go to some sex site for chat like that. You're making a fool of yourself when you do that, and it also makes any good points you make more difficult to absorb.<br /><br />I'm sorry you got focked up as a teenager and it turned you into a pervert. But that's in the realm of information no one really wants to discuss.<br /><br />Here's my suggestion. Go to the firedog link. Then go to the articles Ardin wrote in Swedish for the anti-Castro schtick. Then copy and paste that into the translation link I provided. Then go back to the threads here and elsewhere on the net concerning Giordano, Freedom House, and all those other groups that are CIA assers. Being a CIA asset doesn't mean one is in the CIA. It just means they are of value to them. Moulitsas is a CIA asset based on what he has said about them, those glowing words he has had for them. True lefties do not support the CIA, never, ever.Tokyo Shemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764134901412321022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-9108582219049455872010-12-16T01:42:19.965-05:002010-12-16T01:42:19.965-05:00I just saw a great movie everyone should check out...I just saw a great movie everyone should check out, <i>Los Angeles Plays Itself</i>.<br /><br />Basically Hollywood took a historic dump on Los Angeles. It's a film Francis Holland would definitely like. It gets to Black film makers at the end who actually created some realistic movies. <br /><br />None of us really know the real Los Angeles because of Hollywood. I guess you do, because you lived there. I'm actually too spent to discuss it. It'd be more fun to talk it over with someone who has seen this documentary. Plus, I've just read through your post and there are a bunch of things that need to be addressed that you got completely wrong. <br /><br />Maybe I'll post it at the two other places and edit it down a bit like you advise.<br /><br />You can say the geoengineering part doesn't fit in,and you're correct. But I also notice you couldn't come up with one sentence on it, as if it's not the mostly hidden but important topic it is.<br /> <br />You haven't shown any reason to believe what Assange has accomplished with Wikileaks is so unimportant. Now who should I trust as knowing what they're talking about, you or Michael Moore?<br /> <br />You have nothing on the specifics of this story, just your broken record schtick. <br /><br />He's not my internet Moses or new Larry Bird or whatnot. You make a lot of value judgements because of your always bubbling beneath the surface propensity for sadism. <br /> <br />You donwplay something on Ralph Nader, yet you provide no link or evidence. Why should anyone believe your opinions? I understand why you like jostling with Blues and fairleft. They write a lot of provocative schlock with no reasoning skills behind their conclusions. That allows you to return with your own prose. You are lazy in this way.<br /> <br />Like I never said anything bad about Castro. You missed the whole thing about Freedom House and the confrontation months back with Al Giordano. It's like we are trying to move on to trigonometry while you still haven't memorised the multipiclation tables. You are that far off from even knowing what some of the major details are of the Assange story. <br /><br />You are commenting on topics in which you are unwilling to learn the prerequisites.<br /><br />That guy slamming Cuba was so-called Social Democrat, same as Ardin. She is in tight with them. She poses as a lefty but is more of a self-serving whench with an underlying faith in capitalism, just like you.<br /><br />I thank you for describing the Assange story as being a fairy tale. It just shows how you came up with this angleweeks ago, and instead of doing any real research and reflection, you are staying on that shallow level.<br /><br />I only deleted your posts for a certain period of time, when I wanted you to go away. You wouldn't. At some point I lifted the banning or whatever. I have never deleted you before or after that period of time.<br /><br />Those house trolls were breaking some of the fundamental rules Peeder had by the way. And it was just them two. And so what if I don't have much patience for dumbass trolls of no historic importance? <br /> <br />Yes, the historic troll bit started with me, then you co-opted it, then I co-opted your co-optation.Tokyo Shemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764134901412321022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4111653955715349434.post-68705932567751663732010-12-15T21:50:09.077-05:002010-12-15T21:50:09.077-05:00I'm not minimizing Assange's relevance, Im...I'm not minimizing Assange's relevance, Im right-sizing it. Putting into a proper perspective which I realize the fake left is too goo goo gaga to ever attain. For now, he's seen as the Jesus Christ of the Fake Left, when in reality he's a lot closer to being the Hugh Hefner of the Fake Left.<br /><br />And for the record, give me the chick on the left. I dont trust women with thin lips. Not enough padding.<br /><br />I know that you have finally found your internet Moses to lead you out of the blogging wilderness into the promised land of the whiteysphere, and I can't help but feel bad for you losers having to go to the well year after year with the same worn out hack who was never much to begin with even in his supposed hey day. Nadir's only achievement of note, like in fricken 1965 was the fake expose of the Corvair, that has since been thoroughly debunked for being based more on flaming air than on flaming rear ends.<br /><br />(Melvin porn spam alert)<br /><br />Nadir is forgotten, while the Corvair is a beauty from the days when Chevy rolled them off the assembly line one after another classic hit, just like that other Detroit factory of prodifious greatness, Motown. <br /><br />Your analysis of my take on Assange is about on par with fairleft's for its inaccuracy and one sidedness. Both of you down on your knees ready willing an able to suck the dick of a fairy tale. <br /><br />But lately, I have noticed that when you strip away the schtick veneer, you two are basically the same in many respects. Lots of fake lefty cliches teed up back to back to back to back with nothing else to go with it.<br /><br />"Speaking truth to power?"<br /><br />Wow. When youre down to copping worn out 1960s schtick from Diane g its truly past time to stick a fock in it.<br /><br />Those few quibbles aside, this is a most excellent diary in many respects, especially the parts that are about ME. ME. ME. ME. ME.<br /><br />I can come up with only one real falsehood: that you only delete comments from the house troll. Its bad enough that you do delete comments and ban users than castigate other blogs for deleting comments and banning users. <br /><br />You have deleted several of my comments, too.<br /><br />and the Assange is the historic troll bit is of course you stealing from me who stole it from you...excellent!<br /><br />BTW, Freeze gave me props for that line on FSZ not realizing that it was based on yours. I of course, being honest and generous to a fault gave you credit where due.<br /><br />The great part of my crossposting comments along with my diaries, is that Blues crossposted his responses too. RIOTOUS! I frickin love Blues, I have to admit it.<br /><br />As for the Ardin is CIA, whatever. If Assange is truly the fake left messiah he would have seen thru her rather easily. Instead, she was just one of his "fans" until he decided a revised story worked better for his fundraising efforts.<br /><br />She was part of a group who worked for a guy who had connections to the CIA. OK. Maybe she is but its just as plausible she isnt. The group weas critical of Castro, as you are critical of him here. That means that you too are CIA. Bet on it. We are all fucking CIA. Blues and others are convinced Assange is CIA. Maybe he and Ardin called in Valerie Plame for a covert threesome. Now I would fall into Plames's honeypot in a penis beat.<br /><br />Bet on it.<br /><br />I believe that you should crosspost this everywhere in the whiteysphere. I'll recc it up, if you delete the parts about that boring play (OK leave in the comparison to me and the temperance genius) and the climate schtick. Those dont fit. And I promise, I'll crosspost this comment everywhere too.<br /><br />Because they arent about ME.donkeytalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18088569929621857499noreply@blogger.com