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Sunday, May 31, 2009

Michael Rivero Exposed As A Right Woos Left Jew Hater

Too many Jew haters are showing up on "progressive" blogs endorsing Michael Rivero and other disinformation pimps. They are so desperate to prevent this truth being revealed, that they are spamming my diaries, busting out margins forcing me to go Arthur Gilroy style, practising tag abuse, and trolling nearly my every comment.

These people have not only ruined the Free Speech Zone but are determined to do the same to this blog. This diary will be primarily consist of copy and pastes from the fine work of the_last_name_left as originally written for his fine blog.

Good people, ask yourself why right wingers and Jew haters are all over "progressive boards. Ask why they present disingenuous bloggers such as KarmaFish with ammunition to paint the left as Jew haters. Reflect on how such memes have originated from right wing slobs such as Rivero, Willis Carto, Hal Turner, Curtis Maynard, and various other neonazis. Ask yourself why fake lefties such as Mattes and Tinoire of Progressive Independent have been so determined to laud the tinfoil, freeper troll known as Michael Rivero. Tinoire, by the way, jumped the shark in a big way, when she showed Pinche Tejano style support for Ron Paul.

Tinoire is the admin for an offshoot of Democratic Underground. She is an MSOC to DKOS fake oppositional type. In the past she has sponsored the What Really Happened homepage and has also been photographed with an insidious neocon named Paul Wolfowitz.

She is clearly in bed with Michael Rivero, as is JSR's and Lauren S' good friend Mattes.

These are the Palestinians' worst "friends." They are concern trolls affiliated with Jew hate. They reinforce the lies spread by KarmaFish type operatives, that Jew hate originates from the left, when it has truly originated from the right.

Before we get to The Last Name Left's stuff, here is a bit of my own.

Is Michael Rivero a spook?

He used to post on google user groups.


He has said before that he has had two careers. As he told J. Conti of Bank Index:

I have had two careers, one with NASA and one in the film industry. Currently I am a partner in a small production company.

What exactly did he do while at NASA?

...Prior to his film career, Michael worked with NASA developing advanced image processing tools for the Viking Missions to Mars.

Check out his email address from a google group page from back in the 90s.

Jet Propulsion Laboratory-Military????

There's an Andrew Hoppin from NASA who likes to write a lot on the internet. He is a contact of Steven Hertzberg over at Jaiku. Do Hoppin and Rivero know each other? Hertzberg was an aeronautical engineer yet ends up also making thousands of posts and leaving plenty of internet crumbs. Does anyone else find any of this at all curious? Did Kos ever leave the CIA?

Check out Rivero's posting history. Plenty o' conspiracy theories, many of which are of the It's the Joooos, run for the hills variety. He also dabbled into the Vince Foster and was one of the original but, but, but Clinton astroturfers. It's as if people like him and Kos were "created." How much of the internet could be in fact "black ops" right woos left trolling?

Rivero used to post o'plenty at the Free Republic. Soon his own website would become hugely popular, like Kos, Jeff Rense, Alex Jones and other head scratchers. Has Rivero like a DailyKos simply been a manufactured part of one side in scripted, controlled debate? Exactly how much are we getting astroturfed?

Sorry I don't have the link for the following. This was a letter to Rivero I noticed I still had but never posted. It was one from a holocaust denier. Michael Rivero has been stoking anti-Jewish sentiments on the internet. There was the crap going on at the "unofficial" forum with Ender and the others. Rivero is a liar, if he says he had nothing to do with that website. He let it house his archived letters. He prominently had the link up at his wrh website. Perhaps Michael Rivero was the moderator 86Bush the whole time?

Rivero Enables A Holocaust Denier Through His Silence

Why was Michael Rivero working for McDonnell Douglas? Why the military ties?

The rest of this diary is from The_Last_Blog_Left

Rivero Broadcasts from Far-Right Conference

Rivero promoted, and then reported live from the far-right, white-nationalist conference that masqueraded as "No More Wars For Israel" conference.

Hear the broadcast here:

Rivero heavily promoted the conference, and when the conference was turned away by the venue (because it was obviously such a fascist far-right love-in) Rivero heavily promoted the false pretense that the conference had been refused to go-ahead because it was anti-zionist. In fact the conference was refused because it was a far-right, fascist conference, masquerading as an anti-war conference.

That much is obvious from the list of attendees.

David Duke's website promoted the conference, saying

Legendary freedom activist Mike Rivero along with Hesham Tillawi broadcast this event live over their radio programs Saturday, super activists Chuck Carlson, Mike Piper, Rabbi Dov Weiss, Paul Fromm, Wendy Campbell, Dr. Frederick Toben, Eileen Fleming, Patrick Grimm and many more patriots were interviewed, you can hear the full audio report below.


Rivero hosts articles by Curt racist-fascist Maynard

Rivero and White Nationalist KKK Grand Wizard David Duke

Mike Rivero invited David Duke on his radio show 17 February 2007 to talk about such issues as the jailing of Ernst Zundel.

An audio excerpt is here:
{This link has been scrubbed}

Rivero's Radio Show featuring racist, fascist Curt Maynard

Here's Mike Rivero featuring Curt Maynard on his radio show:

Not a single mention of Maynard's racism.
Not a single mention of Maynard's fascism.
Not a mention of Maynard's association with Vanguard News Network.
Not a mention that Rivero, along with Maynard helped publicise the NoMoreWarsForIsrael conference. No mention that Rivero and Maynard were well aware the conference was a front - it was in fact a far-right organised conference involving Maynard's and Rivero's Nazi chums Joe Fields (Nordwave), John De Nugent etc.........

This is Rivero's "discretion" - lieing by omission - that he promotes, and leads his readers to organised fascism.

Maynard is a racist, and a fascist. And Rivero knows it. But Rivero puts his readership in touch with Maynard, without ever informing his audience that Maynard is a racist and a fascist.

That is Rivero providing a service for fascism. It's Rivero acting as a recruiter for fascism - Rivero acting as a false front for fascism.

Rivero and the "Special Forces Underground"

Rivero was collaborating with a subversive American para-military group, the Special Forces Underground

Led by Green Beret Steven Barry, the self-proclaimed "commander" of the secretive group of disgruntled US military elite forces members, Barry also served as editor of the quarterly newsletter, "The Resister."

Routine commentary vigorously sanctioned a white supremacist agenda; "The United States military was created by white men for white men to defend a white nation. It wasn't designed as a multicultural, diverse, touchy-feely, huggy-snuggly social experiment in race relations. ... Twenty years ago, you could trust a black to do a job. Now it' s questionable."

The Resister Issue 1 -
The Purported Newsletter of the Special Forces Underground
This is the first issue to appear of a newsletter by a group calling itself the "Special Forces Underground". This group, embedded deep within the military structure of the United States, opposes the idea of a New World Order along with transfer of the soldiers to United Nations commanders. This document is as I recieved it, outside of HTML formatting changes.

Volume I, Number 1. Summer 1994.
Boxholder, P.O. Box 1403, Addison, Texas, 75001 (Price) GRATIS...

What We Stand For
The philosophy of The RESISTER is straightforward: strict constitutionalism, isolationism, laissez-faire capitalism, individual rights, limited government, and republicanism.

What We Oppose
The RESISTER opposes statism, liberalism, tribalism, socialism, collectivism, internationalism, democracy, altruism, pull politics, and the New World Order...

...Questions to the Middle-Aged Mutant Ninja Animator: Michael Rivero:


The Resister Issue 2 -
The Purported Newsletter of the Special Forces Underground
Volume I, Number 2. Autumn 1994.
Boxholder, P.O. Box 1403, Addison, Texas, 75001 (Price) GRATIS

For the past two months our observers have been reporting that some readers are questioning the integrity of contributors to The RESISTER because they choose to be known by pseudonyms rather then their real names. This is a legitimate concern and it deserves to be answered at length.

First, no contributor is obliged to use a pseudonym, as anybody who has actually READ the first issue can tell you. Second, the decision to require staff members and regular contributors to use pseudonyms was an OPSEC issue, not an ethical one.

Third, there is a historical precedent we follow which, if not already familr to you, in all likelihood never will be, and is therefore none of your business. Fourth, publishing The RESISTER is a security risk in its own right, let alone referring to in tradecraft and organization. Really, what DO they teach you guys in the Q-course these days?

The RESISTER is a response to the altruistic cannibalism which is consuming the principle of inalienable individual rights upon which this nation was founded and which have been served-up in sacrifice to the mob god of democracy, the minority god of tribalism, the nature god of environmentalism, the slave god of collectivism, and the statist god of socialism.

Do you want to know who we are? We are the individuals who conceive the ideas the cretinous mob calls "the team effort." We are the individuals whose excellence is subverted by the racist policy of "equal opportunity." We are the independent, innovative, and creative who have been enslaved to serve the "greater good." Without us you would still be prying roots out of ground with a pointed stick.

It would be a great comfort and convenience for the myriad unconstitutional federal agencies to note us, categorize us, and file us away for future "reference." We will not give them an early chance, nor will we be goaded into identifying ourselves by sneering comments about anonymous writers.

Every whim based, undefined, un-judicable law it passes; every unconstitutional gang of armed badge wielding thugs it deploys; every unconstitutional agency it creates; every incomprehensible special interest regulation it mandates; every dime extorted through taxation and redistributed to the incompetent and undeserving; every American
life lost in some altruistic war, humanitarian assistance, or peacekeeping operation, demonstrates the illegitimacy of the federal government.

The federal government os not "of the people," it is the instrument of pull-peddlers. It is not "by the people," it is the toady of special interests. It is not "for the people," it is the exercise of force for the sake of force.

Pass laws against us; we will not obey. Regulate our activities; we will not comply. Legislate our behavior; we will not consent.
We are freemen. We will not be subjugated. We have the guns to prove it.

...Questions to the Middle-Aged Mutant Ninja Animator: Michael Rivero:
Clearly Michael Rivero has called into question his own integrity as a purveyor of truth with suspicious connections and prejudicial innuendo. It stands to reason that Michael Rivero's intentions for whatreallyhappened is not to promote truth but a contrarian political agenda - just as militant, manipulative, and deceitful as its

S Boyle,,

S Boyle wrote an article about the apparent connections between Mike Rivero of and, amongst other things, and the SpecialForcesUnderground. responded with threats of legal action, seemingly based on their assertions that S Boyle was completely wrong to make any connection between Rivero/WRH and

But we have a letter to a US attorney which somehow manages to give Rivero's address as IDENTICAL to that of Here:

It says:

Michael Rivero
20500 W. Country Club Drive
Aventura, Florida 33180

S Boyle had said that: (defunct) is/was owned by LLC is ALSO owned by AND each carried their own interview with Rivero - apparently written by one J Conti.

" is a division of the PMC4, LLC family.
The PMC4, LLC Corporate Office is located in Aventura Florida."

GoOff! lists their address as
20500 W. Country Club Drive
Suite # 814
Aventura, Florida 33180

PMC4 lists their address as
20500 W. Country Club Dr.
Suite 814
Aventura, Florida 33280

Clearly those are all the same address. And yet, S Boyle was threatened with legal action by for making an association between and Michael Rivero / WRH.

Here are the emails sent to S Boyle, threatening legal action for making what they claim are spurious connections and insinuations about having a relationship with Mike Rivero/

Bankindex Staff wrote:
Dear S. Boyle;

We would love to reply. Before we do, would you be kind enough to provide us with your real name. We are assuming 'S. Boyle' is your pen name. Also, we would like to know your title and position at IndyMedia, your telephone number and the name and telephone number of the Chief Editor at IndyMedia.

Several articles you have written mentioning, its managing partners and its associates contain totally erroneous information. You imply the wrong things about the organization its objectives and its affiliations.

You should know that your articles have been brought to the attention of our staff and our attorneys who are currently reviewing them for proper action. We are mystified by your motivations and wonder why you are setting up yourself and IndyMedia for a lawsuit.

We also fail to understand why a respectable organization like IndyMedia would allow its editorial staff to publish your bellicose, slanted and malicious disinformation.

The Bankindex Staff

CC/General Counsel


Bankindex Staff wrote:
Dear S. Boyle

Obviously you do not wish to come forward. We can get your information by contacting IndyMedia directly, that's not a problem.

We wish to make one thing clear. You will not smear, its Managing Partners or affiliates and get away with it.

Your "disinformation" essays imply links to "underground" movements and "militants" and we strongly resent that. You also stated Carol Adler's relationship to PMC4, LLC incorrectly, and PMC4, LLC does not own Dandelion.

We are a serious organization whose purpose is to MAKE MONEY! We work above the surface with pride and respect and our company is owned by some of the biggest names in the business.

If any of the essays you have written were to cause any harm to our company or harm the reputation of its Managing Partners you will be liable and we are going to go after YOU and IndyMedia!

As things are now, you are in extremely dangerous waters with the disinformation you have published.

I recommend a full retraction or the complete deletion of what you have written thus far.

The Bankindex Staff

CC/General Counsel


Bankindex Staff wrote:
S. Boyle,

We are not amateur thinkers. You have been going out of your way for a while now to imply that WRH has underground connections to "militant" groups....a claim that is completely frivolous as well as COMPLETELY GROUNDLESS. You further try to imply that Mr. Rivero works for us or that somehow we finance his operation. And that is exactly the point you are trying to make in your malicious disinformation pieces! By implication you are trying to say that we are part of the same alleged movement! You did not address such claims in your last reply, did you?

We are currently contacting the head of IndyMedia and the matter is being referred to the most prominent Law Firm in Miami.

Your irresponsible comments, poorly done research and maliciousness is going to land you and in a courtroom (without a doubt). And when your real name surfaces, and it will very soon, everyone is going to know who you are and what you have been doing. EVERYONE! Rest assured!

You see, we have nothing to hide. We are a legitimate business operation, but YOU are not!

Again, we strongly suggest that you find a way to remove your publications from the web and that you stop this nonsense. An apology is also in order.

The Staff @ Bankindex


Bankindex Staff wrote:
S. Boyle

We will be straight forward with you so there are no misunderstandings.

You have correctly identified that we are business minded. The interest in WRH stems from the fact that Mr. Rivero operates one of the most visited news sites in the WORLD! Let us repeat that again, ONE OF THE MOST VISITED NEWS SITES IN THE WORLD!

That makes him very, VERY appealing!

Now, for any deal to take place, an underlying corporate structure is necessary, you agree? Yes, good!

So, when you say this: "business deals do not constitute a complete or even partial agreement of philosophical viewpoints between the parties involved, only a financial transaction." You are correct!

But when you state:
"I believe to made myself quite clear that the importance of the PMC4 connection is the hypocritical anti-corporate stance of WRH and Michael Rivero." You are incorrect! Here's where your reasoning fails you. We doubt that Mr. Rivero is anti-corporate (too broad a term to have used) in the sense you mean it. The gentleman even owns his own corporation!

Moreover, it is not for us to decide what Mr.Rivero means, nor it is for you to do so. From the viewpoint, we are delighted to be able to interview Mr. Rivero and to have some of our links posted to his site (I am sure even CNN is). You see, the traffic that is derived from just one link on his site is enough to bring down most servers! In addition, did you ever think that perhaps no one else had the guts to do an interview with him? Why must you pursue the sinister angle? If Mr. Rivero�s site were without merit, the staggering statistics from visitors from all corners of the world would simply not exist!

There is no hypocrisy in anything we have done, and above all no tie or connection to any type of group or groups-nor will there be, ever!

When Mr. Rivero�s book is published, we will be glad to carry it in That is what is, a venue built and meant to CAPITALIZE on the UNEXPLOITED CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS. I don�t suppose you are going to start writing about all the authors we are going to be publishing, are you?

The millions of people who visit regularly will appreciate Mr. Rivero�s book. They are his fans and they love him.

Our goal is to tap into the fantastically ENORMOUS market the Mainstream has created by virtue of how they do things. There is nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with pursuing that angle. Our concept is as American as grandma's apple pie.

In closing, we respectfully ask that the very least, you correct your prior publications to show our point of view and to include your own statements clarifying what you meant.

Ideally, it would be much better if you stopped this nonsense and removed the entire piece, which we have been told, is possible.

Also, since you seem to have a great deal to say and to write about. You should consider sending in a manuscript to Dandelion Publications. Perhaps we can publish your book at!

The Bankindex Staff

CC/ Partners and Managers
General Counsel PMC4, LLC
Law Offices of xxxxx and xxxxx

Rivero's Threats - Censorship?

I had been posting at a messageboard for 5 years - and would often criticise Mike Rivero's connections to organised fascism, and the obvious sympathies he betrays for the fascist cause, its beliefs, attitudes, perspectives, etc.

Essentially, Mike Rivero acts as a conduit for far-right propaganda - without admitting it, of course. Subterfuge in the service of fascism. Nice?

Eventually Rivero sought to silence such criticism and exposure, writing to the moderator of the board.

Message from Mike Rivero of begins here - Note, he mistakes my user name as being "spankmaster":

------------ Original Message --------

Subject: Your website

From: "Michael Rivero"
Date: Sun, November 30, 2008 4:12 pm
To: trausti (at)


I have had my attention callked to a page at your site,

I understand and support your policy of non-censorship, but I would like
to call two points to your attention. I do not know how things are down in Peru but First Amendment protections for free speech here in the US stop at the point where malice is detectable in the writings, as it is here. Spabnk Master clearly has an ax to grind and he is using your blog as the sharpening stone.

In addition, providing private details such as my brother's previous address for the purposes of applying coercive pressure is defined as an act of terror under the USAPATRIOT act. Given the globalist tendancies in the courts these days, being in Peru might not shield you from being an accessory if Spank Master were to be charged by any of the people named in his numerous postings.

I do not engage in censorship at my own website, but I do exercise discretion, such as not allowing porno, and certainly I do not allow stories (or advertisers) I know to be fraudulent and misleading. It is part of the responsibility that goes with the power of running a blog.

Like it or not, we are the new mainstream, and we have to act like it.


Michael Rivero
What Really Happened

Interesting, huh?

Several points to be made about this:-

1) I posted a publically available source - a letter to a US State Attorney published on the internet - which contained a reference to a Mike Rivero of, and which gave his address. Source is here:

2) That address is THE SAME as one given for BANKINDEX.COM

3) had threatened one S BOYLE with legal action because BOYLE had years earlier written articles suggesting a connection between BANKINDEX.COM and Mike Rivero/

4) Rivero asserts the address is that of his brother, and suggests I had published the address with the purpose of "applying coercive pressure" and that this is an example of "an act of terror under the USAPATRIOT act." How could that possibly be so when I didn't know it was actually Rivero's address, let alone that of his brother? Furthermore, the source is a publically available one - it's on the internet.

5) Rivero says "....if Spank Master were to be charged by any of the people named in his numerous postings." Police issue charges - not individual citizens engaged in civil disputes over libel. Does Rivero know more than he's letting on? And what is this, if not A THREAT? Rivero exposes himself as being a hypocrite - he's AGAINST freedom of speech, and employs threats involving "The Patriot Act" and "terrorism"! LOL

6) Rivero says "I do not engage in censorship at my own website..." That's untrue. Rivero deletes certain articles from his website archives - for example, the article where he links to a Swedish Nazi march in support of Ernst Zundel.

7) Rivero says "I do exercise discretion". That's why he hosts articles by the racist, fascist Curt Maynard? That's why he links to Maynard? Thats why he had Maynard on the WRH radio show, without ever once mentioning Maynard's violent racism?

8) What IS the nature of the connection between Rivero and BANKINDEX.COM? And why do Rivero AND James Garib of seem so keen to avoid the connections between them being made public?

Socrates here- Much more can be found at the_last_name_left's blog and elsewhere on the internet. There is no justification for any "progressives" being in bed with this neo-nazi. Thanks to the_last_name_left and all others who have fought against the fake progressives corrupting the blogosphere.


the_last_name_left said...

Thanks for putting it out there. :D

the_last_name_left said...

I was just re-reading that post and it's quite astonishing to see Rivero resort to referring to the Patriot Act, and suggesting I was engaged in "an act of terror" - for revealing an address held in a publicly available document.

Likewise the level of Rivero's hypocrisy is astonishing when he claims the First Amendment only protects free-speech up to a point - when malice is detectable.

Like Rivero doesn't show malice? Like Rivero doesn't support the malevolence of such 'writers' as Curt Maynard, Arthur Topham and all of Willis Carto's proto-fascist crew?

Astonishing - but totally in character.

Phil Jayhan said...

Perhaps this might help explain some of Mr. Mike Riveros pathos.

He has an astonishing resemblance to John J Wenckus, passenger of Flight 11. See for yourself! Not sure it is him, but it sure looks like him, damned near 100%...


socrates said...

Phil Jayhan's a joke, not worthy of anyone's time. He could be a grifter idiot. He could be doing Hal Turner type work for the FBI. Who knows, and who cares? This is the dumbass known for the pod missile theory for 9/11. You can check out his forum and see it is full of more junk than the Fred Sanford & Son Salvage Co.. The link he just provided shows someone looking nothing near like Rivero. They're obviously two separate people. Rivero's been in the conspiracy theory freak category since the mid-90's. He wasn't all of a sudden going to end up on a 9/11 passenger list.

Of course here we have another conspiracy theorist who can't keep his idiotic paws off of solid facts contained within an entry. It's as if Phil's goal is to circumscribe the real stuff figured out by myself, TLNL, and a few sincere others into his own and others' convoluted disinfo.

I've made mistakes in the past but none that would comp[are to the shit coming out of Jay. I've done that trying to see if two persons were the same. I never went like Jay did and saod I was positive about two people being the same. I messed up thinking a redhead was MaryScott O'Connor. Another time I went down a rabbit hole thinking an internet blogger might be a journalist out of Washington State. I was wrong and admitted so. Phil's link is ludicrous. But it's par for the course for what he produces.

I think there is rarely any realistic looks into internet disinfo. I sincerely think these buggers do try to circumscribe any of the good stuff into their realm of bullcrap.

Like I said, I admit to some mistakes. But those weren't intentional. And most of my stuff comes out to be true. Verifiable and whatnot. Easily presented so the reader can see what the fock I'm talking about.

There's stuff on Rivero at my Aircraft Wings forum in the astroturfing section and can be found in my blogger profile.

Here are a couple more entries on Rivero from DFQ2 ye might want to check out.

Internet Disinfo Racket Tied to Former Department of Justice Employee

More on Rivero and Jew Hating

Come on. Rivero and Tinoire can be tied to the military. I don't think it's a mistake to think they have been proverbial internet fakes. Phil Jayhan smells like the same kind of insidious freak.

the_last_name_left said...

this page is linked to from here:

socrates said...

Yep, we got the attention of the tinfoilers with this one. It's showing up on the front page of google for Michael Rivero. I used a proxy too to confirm this. The quote from the David Icke lizard's rule the world forum is showing up on the google search. Google takes care of blogspot. I heard around 70% of all searches are made on google. But don't quote me on that. Alex Jones had no other choice but to dump Rivero. It's ok to say illuminati or even lizards, but don't be putting all this Bilderberg guilt on the Jooooos. Then it just becomes ugly conspiracy chatter, a Bilderburger with too much extra cheese.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for exposing him, this nazi tries so hard (together with the anti-Jewish arab-racist desertpeace blogger to pain the victim (Israel) as a "nazi."
Which is the New Nazis and anti-Semitism to demonize the Jew as being as "bad" as the anti-Jew.I also "like" how KKK, neo-Nzis and the DavidDukes out there who act as if they "care" about Arabs.

socrates said...

There's been plenty of exposing of Rivero over the years. I think it's been so effective, that it forced Alex Jones to give him the boot.

I see The Last Name Left has some new related stuff up at his blog. You can get there by clicking on his profile above.

Anonymous said...

OK - so Mike has sympathy for the Palestinian victims of Israel's ongoing crimes against humanity.

How would you like it if some evil land-bandits bulldozed your neighborhood to make a "settlement"?

Think about that, before you delete/censor this comment.

socrates said...

He's the Palestinian's worst enemy.

Even Alex Jones fired Rivero for being too much a Joooo hater.

Rivero's been exposed. That nail has been hammered in. He's toast as a blogger. He's now as relevant to the internet zeitgeist as a tomato can.

Anonymous said...

Rivero is the kind of nutjob who'll die alone in a welfare hotel no matter how much he earned working on schlock like "Lost". As for "Anonymous" and any other closet Judaeophobe here: FOAD, Nazi pigfucker.

the_last_name_left said...

This post showed up on Daniel Pipes' site:

socrates said...

Too bad they didn't include a link to our epic battle with Larry and Dees Illustrations. It was a fun ride battling in the trenches with you against various dumbasses.

the_last_name_left said...

hehe - even though you thought i was some douchebag out to get you? ;)

socrates said...

You know that was a crazy period where some very strange cybersmear script had been put in place against me. Thankfully I saved that story, and also thankfully we got beyond divide and conquer and came up with good things through blogging together.

the_last_name_left said...

it was funny how that one (?) comment i left waaaay back on that mad-long thread on chemtrails came back to cause an issue. hehe.

I think that has been my only contribution to the topic across 10 years. lol. And I never knew the relevance of what I had posted. I was just dropping it in to see if there was any reaction - just to see what my 'research' provoked.

I was intrigued that the subject could generate such lengthy and heated argument. Ah well.

socrates said...

Yeah, you said something at my place that ticked me off. But my over the top reaction was more a result of the shenanigans going on at the unofficial wrh forum.

To this day I do not believe anything about that place having been unofficial. Its link was prominently displayed by Rivero, and they were housing his letters.

Then it got very bizarre after your oil versus Jews thread. Fake lawyers were posting. Then all of a sudden the joint was taken off line eventually for good, and we were supposedly the reason why.

That happened three times, if I'm not mistaken. First there was someone with the handle Ender who made a post right out of an agent provocateur handbook. That was covered on the mammoth thread at Aircraft Wings. You popped in on another one concerning weather mitigation theory (chemtrails is a rotten word). That's when my panties got into a bunch. p:> Now I see it as proverbial water under the bridge in regards to our friendship.

We made up on your Mob Barley thread. Those were good days for that blog. Anonymous comments were being allowed. Free forums had to chuck that because of a spamming infiltration.

I'm very glad we made up. You're definitely one of the dozen or so people I've met through blogging whom I like and respect.