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Sunday, July 7, 2013

Freeform Revolutionary Thinking

I wish I knew who drew this. It's crazy good.

Stop. Wait a second. No, this is not finished. Do not look away.
This is too important. It means something. It means everything.

Edward Snowden just sacrificed his life for all of us. He is not a traitor. He is a hero.

You read something incredibly wild. It's posted at Alex Jones' Prison Planet. You figure, "No way is that true. It must be a fabrication or taken way out of context."

I am simply saying go to the original source and decipher the truth for yourself. Apparently, the only way to fight the conspiracy is through conspiracy theory itself.

No matter what you come up with, you are going to have to confront the disturbing truth. Search engines will take you to the craziest of destinations.

The original Snowden was a gentleman named James Bamford. He wrote The Shadow Factory. He's the primary reason I often use the phrase spy factory. He's not a whistleblower, but he did uncover a lot of stuff as a mass media regular guy.

The big lie is that all this money is put into the M.I.C. (which includes the F.B.I. and it's internet cointelpro progam) to prevent future terrorist attacks on U.S soil. If you look into a lot of these cases, you will find many examples of FBI fabricated terrorism. People who would have never had anything to do with anybody were given the ideas and tools to then be arrested for this so-called terrorism. I'm sorry, but that is textbook entrapment. Police should not have the right to lie or otherwise falsely present themselves.

Brandon Darby did it to those two kids. He was their leader. He was the Arthur Fonzarelli of anarchists. They looked up to him for ideas.

There's a reason why there's widespread consensus Darby's a sewer rat. Thankfully, that troll has been thoroughly exposed and needs no further socratisation.

Hal Turner was also paid by the Corrupt FBI (not to be confused with Good Guy FBI) to "flush out crazies."

He too has been socratised enough.

Would you believe it, if I told you top military brass signed off on a plan to attack U.S. citizens as a precursor to invading Cuba? We know of this through Bamford. It was called Operation Northwoods. It incredibly made it all the way to JFK who responded, to paraphrase, "Nope, we're not gonna do that. Get out of town."

I'm not sure what exactly Johnny Camelot told the nazi-americans dressed up as joint chiefs of staff. If I had been JFK, I would have said, "You fricken lunatics! .... wtf???? Get the hell out of my oval shaped office right this second."

The whole Lee Harvey Oswald thing was very shady. Now we see some similarities forming with the Boston Marathon story. I'm not saying it was a false flag. I'm not that kooky. Nonetheless, there is good reason to believe the FBI might have created the older brother. Here are a couple links spelling out such a theory:

Was Tamerlan Tsarnaev a Double Agent Recruited by the FBI? By Peter Dale Scott on Jun 23, 2013

News – Was Tamerlan Tsarnaev an FBI Informant? 29 April 2013

Here's a typical mainstream article on the conspiracy theories.

Boston Marathon bombings: rounding up the conspiracy theories

I can neither confirm nor deny the following article.

Orwell does America By Pepe Escobar

Donkeytale knows this dude far better than me. I will say this. I am open-minded yet realise there are a lot of sources no one should touch with a ten foot pole. For those who are clueless, before you attempt to understand anything, please google primary and secondary sources. Thanks for your cooperation in this matter. This is extra-parliamentary power the ptb's cannot control unless you let them.

Putting the possible FBI informant/double agent schtick to the side, let's focus in on Craft International.

Remember the sniper dude Ron Paul trolled saying he lived and died by the sword? Craft was his baby.

Could someone explain why Craft working the marathon has not yet made mainstream news?

This is an amazing article by Dave Lindorff who got the run around when trying to get info on Craft International working Boston:

Craft International Services hired guns at the Boston Marathon: Why Such Secrecy about Private Military Contractor’s Men Working the Event?

So anyway, be patient, we can now segue to the good stuff. Starting here from The Boston Globe:

Police response training planned, but bombs hit first

The scenario had been carefully planned: A terrorist group prepared to hurt vast numbers of people around Boston would leave backpacks filled with explosives at Faneuil Hall, the Seaport District, and in other towns, spreading waves of panic and fear. Detectives would have to catch the culprits.

Months of painstaking planning had gone into the exercise, dubbed “Operation Urban Shield,” meant to train dozens of detectives in the Greater Boston area to work together to thwart a terrorist threat. The hypothetical terrorist group was even given a name: Free America Citizens, a home-grown cadre of militiamen whose logo would be a metal skull wearing an Uncle Sam hat and a furious expression, according to a copy of the plans obtained by the Boston Globe.

But two months before the training exercise was to take place, the city was hit with a real terrorist attack executed in a frighteningly similar fashion....
Hmmm. A metal skull for a logo.

While at Twitter, someone put up a provocative link to Prison Planet. I followed it to the original source.

FBI Document—“[DELETED]” Plots to Kill Occupy Leaders “If Deemed Necessary” By Dave Lindorff on Jun 27, 2013
(FBI declassified document) An identified [DELETED] as of October planned to engage in sniper attacks against protestors (sic) in Houston, Texas if deemed necessary. An identified [DELETED] had received intelligence that indicated the protesters in New York and Seattle planned similar protests in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and Austin, Texas. [DELETED] planned to gather intelligence against the leaders of the protest groups and obtain photographs, then formulate a plan to kill the leadership via suppressed sniper rifles. (Note: protests continued throughout the weekend with approximately 6000 persons in NYC. ‘Occupy Wall Street’ protests have spread to about half of all states in the US, over a dozen European and Asian cities, including protests in Cleveland (10/6-8/11) at Willard Park which was initially attended by hundreds of protesters.)
That's pretty, sick stuff indeed. That sounds not so different from Operation Northwoods, which we know is conspiracy fact.

I think the reason Craft(?) or whomever has been deleted from the declassified info is because they are in essence on the FBI/DHS/NSA/BigBrother payroll. Picture Hal Turner's FBI connection times a million. This would make for some very terrifying schadenfreude.

Related links and videos

Was that a Craft International bag?

Lee Harvey Oswald and the USSR
Duration: 10 minutes

First broadcast: Thursday 22 November 2012

Lee Harvey Oswald, the man accused of killing President John F Kennedy in November 1963 had spent more than two years living in the USSR. He had defected there after serving as a US Marine. He got a job in Minsk, and got married but was then welcomed back to the USA.
U.S. Military Wanted to Provoke War With Cuba

US military blocks entire Guardian website for troops stationed abroad
Troops deployed to Afghanistan and elsewhere in the Middle East and South Asia have 'theater-wide block' to Guardian

Edward Snowden: in defence of whistleblowers
Daniel Ellsberg, the leaker of the Pentagon Papers 40 years ago, was smeared and denounced at the time

How Barrett Brown shone light on the murky world of security contractors
Brown is not a household name like Edward Snowden or Bradley Manning. But after helping expose a dirty tricks plot, he faces jail

SPIES FOR HIRE: The 70 Percent Solution

Obama’s crackdown views leaks as aiding enemies of U.S.

Demonizing Edward Snowden: Which Side Are You On?

donkeytale at the Grauniad

The Errors of Edward Snowden and His Global Hypocrisy Tour By [Good German] Kurt Eichenwald

Edward Snowden: Obama guilty of deceit over extradition
US president pledged to avoid 'wheeling and dealing' while bullying countries that might grant asylum, says whistleblower

Pay No Attention to the Leaker Behind the Iron Curtain

Ed Snowden's 'Sexxxxy' 18-Year-Old Self Has Surfaced & He Wasn't a Serious Spy
garbage media

Exposing the Racket: A Simple Stunt Reveals How Blogs Will Print Anything for Pageviews
a digression but perhaps enlightening

U.S. Postal Service Logging All Mail for Law Enforcement
This may be nothing new, but Snowden couldn't bear living in such a creepy society.

Wow, Big Brother is even militarising the Department of Education.

Dept. of Education SWAT Raid Update: Not for a Student Loan, DoE Says
R C Warmy| 6.8.11 @ 2:16PM |# Nice entry in the question-begging Olympics, there, Daren. So, we don't need to wonder why the fuck the DOE needs a SWAT team to serve warrants on defaulted loans. Rather, its a totally different issue: Why the fuck does the DOE need a SWAT team to serve warrants in bribery, fraud, and embezzlement cases.
A hidden world, growing beyond control

APD Infiltrates Occupy

pdf link

Richard Serino 2008 presentation on marathon disaster planning

Erich Fromm interviewed by Mike Wallace. He told you so.

Brandon Darby quickly pinned as agent provocateur by regular guy hippie

"I think now, looking back, we did not fight the enemy, we fought ourselves, and the enemy was in us."


donkeytale said...


Yur about two months two late on the Craft International schtick. Laura John already played this card three times. It's 4chan schtick, holmes, picked up on the conspiracy waiver wire by Alex Jones. Already long since debunked. Those logos are just a bit, uhmmm, too obvious, don't you think?

Can you spell p-h-o-t-o-s-h-o-p?

Do you honestly believe Craft would pull the mother of all covert ops, blowing up the finish line at the Boston Marathon killing and maiming dozens of citizens, and have their operatives dressed in uniforms with their logos displayed everywhere including on the very backpack that did the deed?


I have a bridge over the Mystic River I's like to sell you.

I already counterschticked this schtuff too right here on this very blog. I guess its true then that you dont actually read my stuff.

(See Motive Discovered, for the Boston Marathon Bombing for Dtales)

But, this at least looks substantive:

the link to my Guardian account, I mean, where my thoughtful yet in your face comment elicited several nonsensical responses basically giving everyone particpating in the infotainment industrial complex as consumers a free skate from any responsibility to confronting the PTB.

The conspiracy theory meme is both the cause and effect of the learned helplessness of the fake left.

Also blogged here by me, with majour linkeage.

(see Idiot, Yur Still a, and the Internet is Fried for Dtales)

It will take some time to scan the volume of links herein, which I will do.

This looks like a good effort with the few quibbles above.

Laura will LHAO for sure. You two are in agreement!

I'm beginning to think Fairleft may also be yur sockpuppet?

[TLNL declarative question mark alert]

Great diary. Welcome back to the fight.

This time I know our side will be LOAO!

donkeytale said...

Also very heartened to see the Johnny Cash back in the mix. It was time.

And the Erich Fromm/Mike Wallace thingie too.

This is looking very, very much like an instant classic.

donkeytale said...

And this:

I have a bridge over the Mystic River I's like to sell you.

Is a typo, not some fake ebonics.

Just so's ya knows dat, bro.

socrates said...

I don't know what Laura wrote. My point was to not go by Alex Jones or any other dubious source.

This is a new dtory from June 27th by Lindorff. The deleted people were planning to possibly knock off OWS leaders in your state.

Hmmm. Now who would that be?

As for photo-shop, I don't care either way. It looks like Craft was at Boston. Some exercise was planned for months later with the same scenario with backpacks. The militia of regular guys would dawn skull logos.

Your problem is you need to debunk Lindorff not me.

socrates said...

If I had to guess a plausible conspiracy theory, here goes.

Cointelpro creates Russian terrorist/informant. Something goes terribly wrong. Instead of arresting them in time, one or both of them did commit the terror.

Why did the FBI redact in that memo? Why didn't they arrest the terrorists and claim it as proof ofhow good they are doing fighting the war on terror?

Even if you buy the official Marathon schtick, this other one is the bull in the China Shop. Or no, it's the sore thumb. Wait, it's definitely something you have no answer for. Unless you have some dirt on Lindorff. I looked. He looks legit.

socrates said...

Or they were double agents the whole time. And the FBI was clueless and thought of them as trusted rats.

What's up with the plan to sniper OWS leaders? That's shady.

socrates said...

You'll also need to debunk Operation Northwoods. Which cannot be done.

socrates said...

They could've been patsies. Those are all the possibilities, imho.

I think Oswald was a patsy. I don't think he shot JFK one bullet.

socrates said...

Terrorism is big business. It's a hoax.

donkeytale said...

Operation Northwoods was in 1962?

Here is the Snopes dope:;f=54;t=000428;p=0

But then, Snopes could be cointelpro too. The CT rabbit hole never ends.

Craft was picked up by Alex Jones, and Laura. It was one of a number of 4chan hoaxes presented in the first days after the bombing.

Of course, JFK was murdered by someone larger than Oswald. You say CIA. I say Mafia. Been there done that. It could've been a conspiracy.

However, as a noted academic you already know that a conspiracy to kill JFK 50 years ago or Northwoods doesn't not constititute proof of a conspiracy of to blow up the Boston Marathon.

Frankly, if the idea is to keep the fearful US populace afraid of terrorism, it doesnt seem necessary.

The fearful US populace is very afraid in any event.

Majorities approve of our being surveilled by the govt for instance.

In fact, using the specious logic of the paranoid CT, Snowden could just as easily be a joint Russian/Chinese agent. In fact, while I dont have proof of this, and believe he is likely just a goofy idealist, it is imminently more probable to assume that he is a double agent than is to believe the Tsarnaev Bros were false flaggers. But of course, that is also possible, too.

The above speculation is all for infotainment purposes only. Gambling is illegal and can get you SWATTED and KILLED.

donkeytale said...

'Doesnt not' should read 'does not.'

donkeytale said...

And yes, of course, Terrorismis big business.


If you remove social security trust fund from the federal budget, defense becomes more than 50% of the budget.

On this we are agreed.

Cut the military budget.

The downside there is people will lose their jobs and the country will go even deeper into the economic rabbit hole.

There is one inescable conclusion. A revolution is necessary. In fact, its already started in other parts of the world.

We are too bought off to participate.

This too will change in coming years or decades.

(waves to NSA minder)

socrates said...

You just supplied one of the worst, most predictable debunkings in blog history.

You have proven nothing. You have slanted the blog entry to fit your agenda.... which is to appease your over-inflated ego and appear as Mr. Know-it-all.

I know your type. You like to put words in other people's mouths. You disregard the best sources and try to smear the messenger as being in some fake left grouping.

Operation Northwoods was about getting into Cuba. It wasn't about one action on an empty ship to then frame Cuba.

But you found one link with the name Snopes applied and figured that's that. Throw in the names Laura, Alex Jones, and photo-shop, and you have exposed yourself as a pitiful contrarian.

DonkeyDude completely ignored the Boston Globe article and Lindorff's work. He blanketed over significance of Operation Northwoods.

What part of the sniper company or a similar one being protected by the U.S. Military have you debunked?

He didn't even prove that was a photo-shop. Where has donkeytale proven that Craft wasn't hired by DHS or whatnot for the Boston Marathon? Why has he ignored the new declassified document uncovered by Lindorff?

Is it because he's an idiot or lazy?

socrates said...

You don't know what happened with the Boston Marathon either. So don't pretend otherwise.

The older Russian clearly could have been an FBI informant. I guess your opinion is stronger than Diane and David Munson, two ex-Feds or Peter Dale Scott, who like Lindorff, I am still awaiting your expose on them.

socrates said...

"Such a plan would permit the development of individual projects within the context of cumulative, correlated actions designed to lead inexorably to the objection of adequate justification for U.S. military intervention in Cuba...."

You need to read the actual document instead of googling for hollow gotchas.

" 3. A "Remember the Maine" incident could be arranged in several forms:
a. We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and
blame Cuba.
b. We could blow up a drone (unmanned) vessel anywhere
in the Cuban waters. We could arrange to cause such incident
in the vicinity of Havana or Santiago as a spectacular result
of Cuban attack from the air or sea, or both. The presence
of Cuban planes or ships merely investigating the intent of
the vessel could be fairly compelling evidence that the ship
was taken under attack. The nearness to Havana or Santiago
would add credibility especially to those people that might
have heard the blast or have seen the fire. The US could
follow up with an air/sea rescue operation covered by US
fighters to "evacuate" remaining members of the non-existent
crew. Casualty lists in US newspapers Would cause a helpful
wave of national indignation.
4. We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in
the" Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington.

The terror campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking
haven in the United States. We could sink a boatload of Cubans
en route to Florida (real or simulated). We could foster attempts
on lives of Cuban refugees in the United States even to the
extent of wounding in instances to be widely publicised.
Exploding a few plastic bombs in carefully chosen spots, the
arrest of Cuban agents and the release of prepared documents
substantiating Cuban involvement also would be helpful in
projecting the idea of an irresponsible government"

socrates said...

"3. It is understood that the Department of State also is
preparing suggested courses of action to develop justification
for US military intervention in Cuba."

Remember Iraq with the lies about weapons of mass destruction? The more things change, the more they stay the same.

You've been kissing the Democratic Party's ass for so long, you don't realise the damage you have done to regular people.

Maybe if you are not willing to read the good sources of my entry, you should simply keep your mouth shut.

You looked like a robot with your responses.

You added nothing to the developing story and only fueled more evidence that you are a closed-minded narcissist. You are a contrarian. You can debate any topic. Facts don't mean so much in that kind of game.

You like to hear the sound of your own voice and are simply too lazy to expect too much insight from.

socrates said...

"We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington."

socrates said...

From The Washington Post expose:

* Some 1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies work on programs related to counterterrorism, homeland security and intelligence in about 10,000 locations across the United States.

* An estimated 854,000 people, nearly 1.5 times as many people as live in Washington, D.C., hold top-secret security clearances.

* In Washington and the surrounding area, 33 building complexes for top-secret intelligence work are under construction or have been built since September 2001. Together they occupy the equivalent of almost three Pentagons or 22 U.S. Capitol buildings - about 17 million square feet of space.

socrates said...

This is the group that acquired the released yet redacted documents spelling out FBI uncovering plan to use snipers to kill OWS leaders in Texas. I'm looking around for the exact pdf. I think it's well over 100 pages.

socrates said...

socrates said...

Come on, why is this story being covered up? Why haven't those who made the death threats against OWS leaders in Houston been arrested?

Why protect them? Unless they are on the payroll?

socrates said...

"Could the FBI have been so close to the plotters, whoever they are, that it felt confident it could simply instruct them to call off their plan -- or put it on hold? We can’t know from the heavily redacted documents that have thus far been pried loose from the bureau. But it would not be that surprising if it turns out there is some link between the would-be assassins and the government. It would just be Nixon’s COINTELPRO all over again, where local police were killing activists as part of a nationally organized campaign."

socrates said...

"In reality, the only violence at the hundreds of Occupy movement actions during late 2011 and early 2012 across the US, from New York to Boston to Los Angeles to Seattle, was perpetrated by heavily armed police. Occupy activists were the victims, not the perpetrators of this violence and criminal behavior.

Now it turns out that when some as yet unidentified group or organization -- possibly even one affiliated with banking interests for all we know -- actually plotted to assassinate Occupy activists and leaders, those same intelligence and national, state and local police agencies, instead of protecting the public, turned their backs and did nothing about it.

Perhaps the very “loose coalition” nature of the Occupy Movement, which has consciously avoided having or following leaders, in the end saved it from attack, as the plotters with their sniper rifles never were able to ascertain who their targets should be."

socrates said...

socrates said...

Awww, is donkeytale running around like a chicken with its head chopped off googling for more Snopes?

socrates said...

Revealed: how the FBI coordinated the crackdown on Occupy

New documents prove what was once dismissed as paranoid fantasy: totally integrated corporate-state repression of dissent

Bravo to donkeytale for making jackasses over some unknown troll named Laura along with Alex Jones.

Identified snipers planning to knock off OWS must have also been photo-shopped. We know this because of some anonymous coward named donkeytale.

Thanks, donk. Now we can return to thinking about your boring basketball commentary. Everything is a hoax and photo-shopped. Because you say so. That's wicked awesome, dude.

socrates said...

I concede I used hyperbole in saying O.N. targeted U.S. citizens. I wouldn't doubt it, but I shouldn't have written that as fact.

But you want to focus in on the backpack screenshot that wasn't even a part of the main entry.

There was that shaped logo on the Fed or contractor's backpack. The bombed out bag seemed to have it too.

The Ruskie's seemed to have different backpacks.

I mean, if you want to get into minutiae of what I admit is hazy territory, then so be it.

Did you miss the Boston Globe article which mentioned skull logos in an Operation Urban Shield exercise? It would have mimicked the real thing.

Craft is being hired by local police for training.

That may sound fine on the outside. I want to know who the FBI were talking about in those documents.

You would rather talk about Alex Jones and Laura.

socrates said...

I think I'm winning.

socrates said... pdf

donkeytale said...

"I think I'm winning."

I think you're Charlie Sheen.

What part of "It will take some time to scan the volume of links herein, which I will do.

This looks like a good effort with the few quibbles above" did you not grok?

This looks like an instant classic, however I will need several days to wade through the voluminous links to do my homework for you.

Until then chill.

socrates said...

You are one of my toughest supertroll rivals. You have successfully counter-punched my piling on links schtick.

Now I am going to retract the retraction that Operation Northwoods wasn't gonna hurt U.S. citizens.

It would have been bad enough they were going to murder innocent Cubans.

But according to the ABC News link:

The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro.

America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."

Details of the plans are described in Body of Secrets (Doubleday), a new book by investigative reporter James Bamford about the history of America's largest spy agency, the National Security Agency. However, the plans were not connected to the agency, he notes.

A lot of the links are unnecessary to read.

They were thrown in as a sort of bibliography.

I also used the trick to have the links open in new windows. It's pretty easy HTML code, if interested.

But yeah, the main point is that the FBI uncovered a plot to assassinate OWS leaders in Texas. This news is not making the mainstream.

There is no explanation for why the FBI is protecting that group, unless it is very embarrassing to them (see Turner, Hal).

I am not saying let's round up Craft International. Maybe the folks were DHS/Feds trained and given hats.

But it's still fishy. And I have provided most of this stuff very loosely, so readers can come to their own conclusions.

socrates said...

Apologies for jumping back and forth between the two stories. I am not trying to make this extra confusing.

socrates said...

I do look back and sometimes see things I wish I'd have thought through better. Like that exercise planned for a couple months after the marathon.

It was going to be a form of teanut wearing the Uncle Sam skull logo.

Anyway, all this stuff is going on all over the place under the direction of Homeland Security.

And apparently they are outsourcing their work to 70% of capacity.

A side note is that Snowden was one of them before becoming one of the 70% spies for hire.

Either the identified [REDACTED] snipers are also in that 70% or none of this makes sense.

By the way, the Erich Fromm interview on its own would have been sufficient for a masterpiece.

You could never spin him into some idealist hippie to mock and discard.

The truth hurts, Mr. Yuppie.

From avoiding the draft to raking it in, you could have blended in with the Chicago Eight.

Or with your baseball talents and supertrollness, you could have been one of the Chicago Black Sox.

But that too is a separate blog entry.

socrates said...

You say most people are all good with the Spy Factory, but I disagree.

No one wants them collecting everything and looking at or listening to anything electronic they desire to snoop.

It's creepy, dude.

socrates said...

It looks like Charlie Sheen got plastic surgery. Yeah, that dude is plastic. He's no Joe Rogan for the Fonzarelli factor.

socrates said...

I would not be shocked if someday soon Snowden declares, "There's this no-name blogger socrates. He gets it. Check out his schtick."

Of course it will turn out to be a fake account. I will yet again be pinned as a multi-personality supertroll.

I would also not be surprised if Judge Jordan is tossing 'em back going, "I must say that kid going with the alias lower-cased socrates knew what he was talking about. I done him wrong."

socrates said...

I'm fairly sure I'm done. The prosecution of internet and otherwise spy factory shenanigans rests its case.

Blog court is now in recess.