This blog is dedicated to the memory of David Weintraub, who took on insidious astroturfers and won.

Wednesday, May 18, 2016

Cenk Uygur is a verified ratfvck3r

                                                              Where's the plane?

TMZ said he got booted off the plane by a cop, but a Cenk tweet says he never boarded. I don't find that part very important anyway. I do think his behaviour was incredibly outrageous considering there are stories coming out all the time about people kicked off of planes and arrested. He definitely could have been charged with disturbing the peace. If it weren't for his subsequent participation in Democracy Spring, I might theorise he was drunk or something. Yet, the agenda for Democracy Spring was to generate a maximum number of arrests for their protest against money in politics. Put the two together, and it appears that Cenk had a revelation while stuck in the terminal; that, "Hmmm, maybe I can use this situation to rile up the big audience The Young Turks have developed into coming down to D.C. to add to the arrest totals."

Cenk Uygur is extremely shady, period. He has been an Armenian Genocide denier. He recently came out with a fake update on that position due to increasing pressure from the Armenian community and I suppose a few internet addicts such as myself. He had his co-host Ana tweet out a link in which Cenk says he wrote some stuff when younger that he now takes back. He doesn't go into specifics. He even says that he doesn't know much about the topic and will be refraining from discussing it in the future. There was nothing on his own timeline. He wants this topic to disappear.

However, the Armenian Genocide denial story will never go away until it is officially addressed. The momentum for global acceptance of Turkish crimes against humanity is unstoppable. It's why I jumped on this stuff as soon as stumbling on it.

I've finally gathered up enough steam to quit Twitter. I went straight into the heart of its underbelly and now realise it could be the most evil of all the medium genres. There are some obvious reasons why it's so lame. There isn't enough space to write. I tried to overcome that by writing in a way by which folks could scroll down, then read upward in order and not as separate micro-blog entries. There is too much small talk, spam and sloganeering. I don't do shallow. I don't do silly things such as non-grammatical because sentences. Dave Letterman was getting battered by Bill O'Reilly one time on his show. They were discussing the Iraq War. Bill was trying to corner Dave in a yes or no way, as in did we need to get rid of Saddam, yes or no, or something to that extent. Dave responded he couldn't answer that because thoughtfulness.

The most annoying part of Twitter is that one can see clearly how people are manipulated by the internet social structure, no different than how most are manipulated by education, t.v., and all sorts of medium we take for granted. Marshall McLuhan said that content becomes meaningless. He said that the medium takes over our central nervous systems. Paulo Freire in Pedagogy of the Oppressed said that we must decide whether to be active thinking subjects or passive listener objects. No one is vetting sources or we are basically still in the early stages of internet consciousness and eventually people will wtfu.

Anything that obfuscates the truth about social reality is violence. The best part of having a personal blog is one can become free of any outside interference. People can drop comments? There are options. Comments can be disabled or they can be put in a moderator queue. A lot of online publications have come to terms with the trolling problem by simply shutting down all comments. In real life before this twisted internet shite, one could write letters to the editor. Now any variety of looooser can drop violent thoughts onto articles. I can't remember the last time I enjoyed reading peanut gallery comments. It would be nice to experience one day of internet life without having contact with any of that. I do appreciate a good post by anybody, anon coward or not. Yet, if one must navigate through a heightened noise to signal ratio in order to get to the nuggets, it no longer seems productive or worth the hassle.

The medium is most definitely the message. The ptb's do not like independent thought based on solid research and reflection. They want conformity and order. They use the word herding. It is in a Snowden document pertaining to the online covert, cyber magician schtick. It is illegal for our government to perform psychological operations on us, but that doesn't mean it is not happening. It truly is and can be easily verified. They say there is nothing to see and move along. Don't fall for that. 

The goal of any thinker should be to transcend or circumvent this monstrosity of rigged, fake activism. Nonetheless, there is no getting around the fact that the social structure is what it is implying that no regular guy is an island.

Twitter will f_ _ _  with your head. It is too fast and there are too many messages to process. It may seem that a little 140 character box should make it easier to respond to or understand content, but that actually does the opposite. It becomes drama or all sorts of inane forms of time wasting. I am online for neither chit-chat nor mindless clicking.

There is also the logistical difficulty of blocking out messages. One is too in the open on Twitter to prevent harassment. Anyone can respond to anyone else's tweets. There is too much ego politics concerning the Twitter stats. There is too much spam. For lack of better words, there is too much garbage and too many scumbags. If we wouldn't break bread with certain people in so-called real life, why would we want anything to do with them on social media? 

Here someone can drop comments and as explained above, I can either let them through or block them out completely. Twitter is violence because there is too much begrudging and small talk. It's not just the louder voices like mine which attract the attention of bad players. Any person who asserts him or herself with independent confidence will be fvcked with. You can bet on it. I have seen this time and time again in my approximately ten years as an internet addict. Regular people do get attacked.

People who stay in their so-called lanes have an easier time of it but that also boxes them into evolving into passive, listener objects and more easily manipulated. I used to substitute teach. I was on a trajectory to become the greatest social studies teacher of all time, but it is a highly competitive job market for that specialty. If I had stayed in my lane, I'd be making 50 grand or wtf as a full-time teacher. We cannot regret any bad luck experienced, although that is easier said than done. As modernity slogs forward deeper into 2016, as it seems inevitable Bernie will not win the presidency barring a Hillary indictment, we are headed towards some very violent, aggravating moments in our collective history.

This entry is my personal way of segueing off of Twitter back into a milieu of total freedom. The internet is real life. I am a breathing, thinking, whatnot subject striving for not only enlightenment but also social and environmental justice. This cannot be accomplished alone, but it can also not be accomplished within a contaminated, corrupted internet social structure.

I feel that my best contribution to society as a writer will be to go back to my anti-conformist roots. I will always be a teacher. That was my training and experience. I do care about humanity. I do care about individual readers who may have stumbled onto my schtick. I am thinking of Millennials who are too young to be jaded. They have quick minds. It is a yin-yang. Older folks can help younger people avoid ptb traps. Youth can inspire older folks to recapture what was lost after years of conditioning by the harsh system.

We have entered a point in history in which anyone can write and partake in an online democracy. Yet, we must never forget that there is a real world called nature which cannot be accessed by any electronic device. We must seek out sanctuaries from this hideous thingie called social media which is cementing power for both corporations and military.

There needs to be a complete boycott of the mass media. Twitter with its retweets is pushing our buttons. It is telling us what to think and who to literally follow. There should come a point for anyone with a working brain to realise that corporate t.v. news is utter rubbish. Then there should come a point in which folks also realise that the internet for the most part is simply an extension of that. Twitter cages in academic thought just as much as CNN does.

Too many folks make the mistake of thinking the internet is any different from the television. Cenk Uygur preyed on this idea as have countless numbers of internet personalities. People feel insignificant and for good reason. We don't have much power. Look at Bernie. He has power and still cannot get over the hump of DNC and media corruption. So why should anonymous nobodies like ourselves ever expect to change the world?

musical intermission

I'd love to change the world
But I don't know what to do
So I'll leave it up to you
end of musical intermission

start of Charles Bukowski intermission

"So, you want to be a writer?"

end of Charles Bukowski intermission

The significance of the intermissions:

The medium is the message. Content becomes meaningless. All we have are pockets of awareness. We are on our own. We are shut out from the political process. That means social change will only take place as a result of protests and hardcore activism. We are in a time crunch. Both planet and society can only absorb so much negative energy.

Bernie is saying it's about us, not him. One person can only do so much. That is why I added the Ten Years After song. I leave it up to the Millennials. And Bukowski nailed it. If writing is such a struggle, then don't do it. If writing has some hidden agenda or whose basis is rooted in monetisation, don't do it.

I am not giving up on writing, but I cannot do everyone's homework. Bernie can't wave a magic wand and complete society's homework. I used to get very edgy and wordy trying to explain everything for anything that caught my attention. I was trying too hard, thus some of my writing was very good, yet other parts were basically forced.

So I am not about to go running around like a chicken with its head chopped off writing 10,000 words on Cenk Uygur. My main goal is to motivate and inspire younger people to not only research social theory but to also create it. I want them to figure out how to ultimately take over ownership of the medium. That will not be possible until the profits are starved from corporate t.v. and internet. One can critique whomever they like, but all that is doing is maintaining their power. We are merely reacting to them.

Arianna Huffington was one of the most inept bloggers I ever followed. She pulled some crazy stunts including piecing together Clooney quotes from interviews and making it seem he had written an original entry. Instead of going oopsies, sorry, she doubled down in a manner very similar to how Hillary never takes responsibility for her robber baron, warmonger racist ways. To the Arianna's of the world, all publicity is good publicity. Donald Trump did not invent that idea. He manipulated the medium to cover his arse 24/7 by making the most outrageous comments. It was deliberate and it worked.

Trump was so outrageous that many started to believe he was a Clinton plant, some form of controlled opposition. This other dude Studebaker wrote an interesting thesis a few months back which contradicts the conspiracy theory. He argued that Trump was faking at being a lunatic because that's the language of citizens comprising the GOP electorate base. Donald's primary goal was to win the nomination in that one cannot become President before first winning one of the two major party nominations.

Since securing it, Trump has already backed off on some of his more outrageous stuff. Instead of saying Muslims will not be allowed into Amerikkka, he is now saying that was a mere suggestion.

The problem with the DNC's twisted strategy for winning the general election is that for all of Trump's negatives, Hillary Clinton has just as many if not more. The only thing preventing an indictment is the overall corruption of the political social structure protecting her. Both sides suck. In a choice between Hillary and Trump, I will be rooting for the latter. I believe that the DNC is a dead end and needs to change or die. One can fight the system from within the system for only so long until one realises that is also a dead end. I imagine Hillary as president will soil the left for many years to come after her guaranteed carnage. Look at what she did to the Middle East as Secretary of State. The DNC basically finished up the GW job of creating the Islamic State. War is big business.

What we are seeing through Twitter is a complete whitewashing of the progressive movement. Uygur has established himself as the #1 alternative internet power. Dumbasses can't get enough of him. There is also someone named Nomiki Konst who is another paid fake Bernie Bot. There is a Jordan Chariton from The Young Turks who also gets a lot of attention through the manipulation of progressive emotions. Konst is a member of the Truman National Security Project. She claims it is a progressive organisation. It isn't; not even close. For example, it's in fricken cahoots with Madeleine Albright. Is she a progressive?

Democracy Spring

This event was so popular that even Rosario Dawson fell for it. We are always susceptible to falling for fake activism. There is now a body of literature which explains how the CIA/Military-Industrial Complex goes about interfering with other countries. They call it waging non-violence. It is a kinder and gentler form of imperialism. All the same names keep popping up. Omidyar. Peter Ackerman. Jack Duvall. The ICNC - International Center on Nonviolent Conflict. Soros. Akin to Konst's promotion of the Truman Project as progressive, the same is being done with fake activist groups established by CIA front groups such as NED, AEI, and USAID. For this to take hold, true progressives must be spun as a lunatic fringe. How else are the Hillary's and Obama's to front as progressives? The #BernieOrBust movement is an acknowledgement of this dirty secret that behind the facade, Hillary, Obama, et al are truly fascist pigs.

It will be very painful when Bernie inevitably throws support to Hillary. It will be interesting to see how that sort of sheepherding goes. Bernie is authentic. I can't blame him for not going third party despite the widespread election fraud. I think in a three way race between himself, Hillary and Trump, he would win. Yet, Bernie has made a decision to not do that because if Trump won in that scenario, Sanders would be attacked as a Nader. Chomsky has said he will vote for Hillary as a no-brainer if the choice is between her and Trump. I don't want to vote for Trump, but the thought of Hillary Clinton as president is a deal breaker. She is despicable, vile and menacing. I don't imagine a write-in vote for Bernie will do any good. So for me, it would come down to voting for Jill Stein hoping the Green Party can develop into a legitimate third party or I will hold my nose and vote for Trump.

Hillary or Trump will suck either way, but there is something about the DNC which scares me more. I am only one vote, so there are no worries from that angle. I am not a Trump supporter. I am worried about who ends up holding the bag. Hillary could destroy the left in a similar way to how Bush/Cheney ruined their own party. Look, the DNC has been a failure. The right continues to gobble up governor, representative and senator seats. Obama has even been lobbying for a conservative to be placed in the open Supreme Court slot. He is anti-whistleblowers. He has done nothing for his own race. He bailed out the banks. He promoted the charter school movement. Do some fricken homework on neoliberalism.

While so many at Twitter were blindly promoting Konst, Cenk, Jordan and Democracy Spring, I got a busy. How can anyone support anything or anyone without a vetting process? I refuse to live that way. Of course, there is a learning curve to the internet. We all at first think no way could everything be rigged and fake. Unfortunately, it is. I didn't have much to go on, but I knew there had to be more to it than some clown named Kai Newkirk. I ended up reading about a CIA-styled fake progressive named Paul Engler. He is the name behind Newkirk and Cenk. He is a promoter of "waging non-violence." For those new to this angle, ye might want to peruse this entry I made years ago and especially the comments in which Al Giordano showed up. Google Peter Ackerman, for crying out loud.

The fake activism schtick exported by Amerikkka in order to destabilise leaders such as Chavez is now being applied here at home. In my opinion, Democracy Spring was nothing short of a psychological operation, honeypot and entrapment. To say that we are living under Orwellian fascism is not hyperbole.

That'll about do it. I have written this as a way to finally get myself to quit Twitter. I will still use it to promote entries from here or to make a few tweets, but I will no longer use it as a base. I needed Twitter to get away from donkeytale and now I need DFQ2 to get the heck away from Twitter.


In addition to being the big wig at ICNC, Ackerman was also the twisted mind behind something called Americans Elect. It eventually fizzled out, but for a time it looked like a possible avenue to promoting a third party. Buddy Roemer almost won their nomination. It's a pretty weird story out there for anyone interested. Guess who Roemer is buddies with. His name is Cenk Uygur who was given millions of dollars by the Budster to boost The Young Turks. It's a small world, no?

I will be vindicated with this as I have been with many other topics. But I am not going to go nuts over it. I am going to heed Bukowski's advice on writing. I could go on forever. Cenk once interviewed an "ex-CIA" clown with Cenk pretty much sounding like Moulitsas in that the CIA now has a lot of regular guys in it, that this is not your dad's CIA. Turkey is a garbage country which is part and parcel of a CIA global vision. Cenk pretty much is running interference for both Turkey and the CIA. Yet, most of his work is devoted to a manipulation of progressives who agree with Bernie that enough is enough.

He had some drama between himself and MSNBC which catapulted his propaganda schtick as the fake true media. We have basically entered the Reign of Cenk Era or wtf. They all suck. Cenk is no good. I can definitely go on and on, especially with ad hominems. I must wrap this up before veins burst forth from me noggin. Did Uygur not ambush Bernie in the interview then promote the subsequent corporate spin that it's time for unification? Did The Young Turks not ambush Susan Sarandon with a smear based on her Trump comments?

The CIA is all about balance and fake activism that serves corporations and military. The Ackerman's and Uygur's of the world are no different. They are bought gatekeepers. They are the controlled opposition. They are out to brainwash you. They are out to get your info to put into your PRISM file. This is conspiracy fact. Stop being passive listener objects and take control of your spiritual and intellectual destiny. Circumvent the medium or become absorbed by it.

My work here is done, done.

el fin


Anonymous said... << So much for #stillsanders. You're 100% right about cenk, and woke up to how he is a paid fake. He's a turkish agent, and promoting buddy roemer all because he didnt have super pacs? yet cank actually owns a "wolf pac". does hillary donate to it?

Robin Morris said...

Dear DFQ2, You write a bloggy brill . I and me pard were most entertained. I must say that I woke this morning, having had some truck with the DS people in a glancing sort of way while reviewing some videos of their march. I was worried when some alt internet broadcasters were distracted from the careful coverage they were attempting to do on Sanders day to day campaign and rallies and switched to covering DS and alt-media rockstars Cenk, Kai, Larry Lessig, Lee Camp, all hanging out at "the largest CD in the Capital's History!" . I had read of the Bonus Army and the huge protest camp that young Doug macArthur mowed down with tanks and troops, killing 2 WW1 vets. Because that took place across from the White House and not on the Capital Steps, a alt-pundit told me it didn't count .Prog. Demagogy seems rife, please checkout the program on FSTV called ACT OUT. Isn't that what angry toddlers do? Did they mean act up, but it was taken? They interview Chris hedges, a pundit that while he pulls no punches, seems a grand sort of troll- he is pictured telling young people the 2 party system is corrupt and they need not take part. Did he amend that statement in support of Bernie, just this once? hard to say, because there was an edit in their very short interview. It is quite heavily edited. For instance the march was shown as HUGE. No tree or air shot ever, no shot from the top of the steps, ever. And on ACT OUT they actually had one "BLMactivist" who said, thrice, that when shit don't work, no matter what that shit be, you just gotta "shut it down". I don't know if that is what she says or BLM's official platform, but Newark, like Ted Cruz, has pretty much only shut shit down as far as i know, oh sorry,afaik.

Robin Morris said...

Newark has a npo and on its page 99rise u can see little cell phone videos of when they go to SCOTUS and yell. He has Nancy Pelosi as a link there. I watched him try to argue a local pol into getting arrested in DC and the man almost laughed in his face. If there were all these damn orgs involved it felt like a failure. I couldn't see almost any people of color. And people named as organizers, like Adam Green, looked more like lobbyists than activists- he is seen hanging with Cenk and partying on his Twitter account. Newark's past is unavailable before a couple years ago- he pops up as a famous activist out of the grounds at wikipedia with no biography, just shenanigans at SCOTUS. Another guy named Mickey has a YT site with one sub- Kai may have enlisted him. If I am wrong, I hope those stars of alt media will forgive me for piling on. But you did not give me this notion. I was searching for the topic, because I wondered how come the MSM just ignored, but never attacked, what looked like a fizzle, at least on all alt channels. They may have wished it was bigger, or more violent.But it did take some people out of the Sanders campaign. That also brings up the fact that it was "non-partisan",. so Trump followers were streaming it etc and it was strange bedfellows. All this as Bernie headed for New York, needing every last bit of help we could give him. No! Cenk is in DC! As for trolls, now that I have retired from my own little hell I was creating for myself by trying to fit into the cult of a broadcasting team, I realized that the creepy scientology feeling I had was lessening. I realized that my old YT site was still up and I could be free of trolls there, both the chat- and-comment type and the type that wants your help in the revolution..if you are pliable and especially if you have some money and time. So I started to put out video again after years dormant. And what do you know, in a month I am averaging 2000 hits a day, and have developed a way to clear YT of trolls. And I wondered, watching how the attention of the young people had been horked by this Occupy-ish thing that didn't care much about bernie sanders, because they were going to get arrested. And they would get arrested so much and for so long that they would take "our house back." If a half million peeps had showed, boy would I have been red in the face. But it looked cheesy. Handmade banners mostly. Small crowd. Bad entertainment. Chanting...god the chanting. And I only watched bits on the net. So forgive me god, but I join this man in decrying my pals on the left who make a show of all this, and in collecting their subs, and likes, and donations, and monetizing their YT sites, so that Bernie speeches, already deliberately sabotaged in sound, are punctuated by ads...and these worms rule YouTube, and all the Bernie fans have been duped by these fake sites that are fronts for msnbc. I have proof. Please see my vid sound comparison at and thank you. I think that if someone needs to, they must pull back from "activism" because in every guerrilla cell today, due to foolishness, naivety, laziness, there is a cancerous double agent- or troll. They are at the top of much of what we may think is the revolution. So our energy and minds are much better put to use solo. Don't unify with those who would stab you in the back. Thats why IM bernie or bust.

Lenny Fritos said...

Thanks for your comments. It will take me some time to digest the above, but for now, I very much appreciate the feedback.

Lenny Fritos said...

I agree with Modifest that Cenk Uygur is in some sort of cahoots with Turkish politics. I believe that after he wrote at least two articles (or one article and a letter to Salon) denying the Armenian Genocide that it is quite disingenuous of him to now bury in some internet corner that he takes back what he wrote. His "recanting" couldn't be any more ambiguous or obfuscated. He ended his fake mea culpa by saying that he won't be discussing the topic in the future because it is not something he knows enough about. So, imho, the only reason he fake recanted is because he wants this personal controversy to be put to rest. Yet, he doesn't want too much attention brought to it despite Turkey being an f'ed up part of US foreign policy and despite the fact that a growing part of global society is saying enough is enough with denying the genocide happened.

Lenny Fritos said...

Thanks for your comments, Robin. It's nice to know that just because there aren't a million of us on the same wavelength, that at least we are not that alone. We even see things the same way in regards to Chris Hedges.

I think you are correct that we have to work alone and if the work can transcend who we are as individuals, that all of us random nobodies can add up to a decent level of consciousness.

Personally, it has been the work of Marshall McLuhan which has given me the confidence to say that the medium is the problem. And you point this out that for all the frothing at the mouth by "progressive" cults of personality, all they ever seem to accomplish is financial gains for those self-defined progressives.

I spent quite a big chunk of this day looking at your videos. I saw the one on Maddow which I agree with you she basically was filling in a blue book for a mid-term, the way one realises volume can make up for a deficit in pure academic thought. I have stopped watching cable news of any variety. I am also very selective in what I read on the internet. I have no problem with watching a Maddow segment when it is put together the way you did it. But it seems kind of pointless to go through life giving the medium full power on the digital representation of social reality. So, Maddow claimed that Bernie was basically giving up and that there was already some form of unity in the works between Hillary and Bernie. I remember when she extrapolated from something to do with Biden and that it was proof or wtf that he was going to enter the race with Warren as his VP. She said a similar thing to what was on your video. That she had a hunch or something. She reminds me of sports analysts who prognosticate. If it turns out to be true, then they look like geniuses and experts. If not, then they are seen as blowhards.

I looked into Adam Green and I agree he looks and acts like a suit.

The Buddy Roemer connection is quite ridiculous. And I agree with you about the odd nature of groups such as Democracy Spring claiming to be non-partisan, yet how could their thingie not incorporate Bernie into the mix? For all of his flaws or mistakes, and who of any of us doesn't have flaws or make mistakes, how is Bernie Sanders not part and parcel of a movement to get money out of politics?

I agree with you the Act Out video on Democracy Spring looked ineffective. I don't like how they tried to get thousands of people arrested and basically put on Military-Industrial Complex/FBI lists. I thought The Young Turks are supposed to be the internet media power. Why would they need so many arrests to get this story into corporate news? Why is there a need to get such stories into corporate news when we now know that the MSM is worthless?


Lenny Fritos said...

Kai Newkirk is that guy's name. You misspelled it. But I agree there is no info on him from before his emergence as an "activist."

I think what happens is that we are herded into cults of personality in which the past becomes meaningless. It doesn't matter who Kai Newkirk and Cenk Uygur used to be. It is about who they are today. Look at Brian Williams and Fareed Zakaria. They did things that would get most other folks disgraced and fired. Kai Newkirk is mysterious. He is a form of Brad Friedman, imho. He is a front man. Bradblog Friedman co-founded something called the Velvet Revolution. What are the odds that he started another so-called coloured revolution? Are we being sheepherded into fake social movements? Anyway, the point is that Friedman was a mere front. People were supposed to accept himself at face value as an intrepid internet journalist. It turned out there were hidden people behind the scene and obfuscated for good reason.

Newkirk and Cenk are the front for Democracy Spring. I linked them to Paul Engler who sounds exactly like the Peter Ackermans of the world talking up CIA styled coloured revolution.

Based on the Armenian Genocide denial alone, I believe Uygur is dangerous. I see him as the ultimate co-opter of OWS and basically a gatekeeper.

It won't be very easy for people like us to make a dent in the medium status quo. It feels like we are at an initial point in which most would rather stay in denial and blindly support the wrong people because otherwise they would have to acknowledge that the social structure is more diseased and manipulated than most can handle. Hope trumps nihilism.

It is not that I'm bitter and in some kind of deep cynical funk. I am trying to call it as I see it; that these "spring movements" are utter rubbish vehicles for herding; that they are feeding off of good-natured people who feel insignificant. They are being sold false hope in return for promoting the actors.

donkeytale said...

Dont publish this comment (unless you want to. I'm not back and don't intend to come back. I'm actually ecstatic to have broken the blogging jones) but if I may from time to time drop a few tidbits for your perusal in this way where you don't have to publish or publicly acknowedge, some food for blogthought.

I believe you have comment moderation ennabled. If not feel free to delete this comment

Here is Osborne direct schtick theft (x2) of donkeytale prescience concerning GG:

Here is also the classic thread where yr obedient servant goaded Marisacat into outing Shadowthief as the Blogging Curmudgeon AND providing Swedish with the ultimate ability to find the real Shadow still working at the Berkeley School District, thus confirming they all suck except for SHadowthief who was and still is the greatest troll in the herstory of the internets.

It occurs to me you probably read this thread but a retro review and maybe even reaching out to Swedish Jack to confirm how much I/we assisted his pulitzer worthy investigation into SHadowthief requires some form of acknowledgement.

ANyway, hope your are doing well and yes I too pray that FFF Hillary received her just desserts form the FBI but in the end she'll probaby just get dessert.

Carry on my wayward son

Lenny Fritos said...

I thought comment moderation was on, but apparently it wasn't. I was going to copy and paste that without the links to that weird, cybersmear website. I find all that stuff pointless and reeking of cointelpro. It's conspiracy fact. I suggest no one visit the website. Marissa's is okay, but not the other one.

Yes, I imagine we brought the Swedish tabloid writer some clarity to what must have seemed like a wtf is this kind of murkiness.

That proxy ip was available to anyone. It's called a proxy. He could have been in Cheesekraut, Sweden. That is what you don't seem to grok. You wanted it to be some form of supertroll James Bond having a letdown and coughing up his true name. I don't think that was ever verified.

And Curmudgette was in on that. It was a military intelligence /slash fake political blogger schtick. In the old days, it was just flat out called cointelpro. Someday in 50-100 years they will make a PBS documentary on my schtick. Maybe Frontline, if I'm lucky. Darthard Perry knows what I'm talking about.

That Osborne guy is one of the bad guys and I couldn't care less about any of that garbage.

I follow someone who tweets a lot on D3rik |_04tutter. I couldn't care less about him either. He just got indicted.

I have to put his name in code. That's why I don't like that link you gave. Those are people who fucked with me.

donkeytale said...

Excellent steal of my "tidbit" schtick above in your latest mailed in entry.

I'm now firmly of the opinion the donald must be stopped, not so much because of the donald himself who I believe is mostly a harmless dirtball merely tweaking his massive ego (it may be the only way he can still get it up---even with an x model for a wife) but because of the ugly zeitgeist he's tapped into which was on full display at the RNC. This is the end, my only friend the end. The boomer generation in all of its gory. Jim Morrison himself would probably be turing with Ted Nugent if he hadn't faked his death in a Parisian bath tub in 1971.

This time Trump the old white sore looosers legitimised the moronic Trump, who will it be next time? Kanye? Taylor Swift?

Here's the thing about Shadowthief. You conflate a supertroll automatically with a technical expert. However, it is well documented, even in Jack Werner's own masterpiece, that the Thief was NOT a technical expert and NOT adept at covering his internet tracks. Jack found him through a search of meta data. Remember this was almost a decade ago. Proxy servers were only just becoming well known among the blubbering herds and Shadowthief was a librarian ffs. He was still working with actual paper and cardboard books, which accounts for his literary bent, which was epic and key to his persona. SHadowthief was using the newish tools to create a new form of interactive literature, an ARG before its time.

Byron easily busted him by discovering his Veronica the Viking picture on photobucket belonging to a nurse in Minnesota or WTF, and someone did same with his Veronika Larssen photo that Jack traced to a different chick.

Methinks you have become so steeped in conspiracy theory that you now find it hard to admit that sometimes a circle jerk is just a mutual sex act among acquaintances.

Is it possible that Shadowthief is cointelpro? Not really. He's from the first generation of community blogging supertrolls and he perfected a literary genre is more my take, one invested heavily in transsexual overtones. But he also played a great dude too.

Curmudgette could be cointelpro I'll concede that without hesitation or she could be the bored liberal housewife of a career grunt. Liberals in th emilitary do exist.

It's fun speculation and I will keep the thought open that you could be 100% right about Shadow too. No need to re-open old wounds and get you in that threatening to out donkeytale mode.

If you re-enacted comment moderation feel free to delete this if you rather not bother.

I'm voting third party again this year. I can't go green however. Jill Stein is a nonentity. They need to field a candidiate with at least a smidgeon of public stature, like a governor Gary Johnson or even another Ralph Nader. I'm voting johnson again, not because of his politics which are half correct and half nonsense but in homage to this great dairy from 2012 which brought Jane Hamsher into my thread rendering you fake insanely jealously enraged. Ah, those were the days.
But I will readily admit that you have been right on target rega

Lenny Fritos said...

You are twisted and a borderline stalker. You don't think I know who you are? You don't think I'll share that info? Do you want me to share it?

"This time Trump the old white sore looosers legitimised the moronic Trump, who will it be next time? Kanye? Taylor Swift?"

The Democrats are also a party of old white sore looosers, Petey. Get control of your facts.

I just found out your granddad George was in the FBI. I don't know how I missed that before.

Tidbits was a schtick developed by Boston's The Sports Huddle. They spoke of a pu pu platter of tidbits from the world of sports.

I don't like you. I don't trust you. I also don't like that you yet again linked to that disgusting website that smeared me. I don't like your fixation on me, shadowthief, or politics.

I couldn't care less about your politics. You are a form of Cenk Uygur hanging out in milieus you are not a part of. You are not left wing. You are a neoliberal. Only a right winger would pick Johnson (and wow, William Weld) over Jill Stein. Many states force the Green Party to run a presidential candidate to become recognised. I think the Greens need 5% to get federal matching funds and 15% to be included in debates. Perhaps if you had argued Johnson has a better chance than Stein to reach the latter number, it would've been one thing. No, you went heavy-handed and dismissed her and the Greens while supporting conservatives. Google just got busted not including Jill as one of the presidential candidates. You are attempting to do the same. And oh how ironic it is that you say the Greens should have run someone like Nader, the man you have attacked for many years.

I can't believe you yet again linked to that website smearing me. That is ridiculous. Okay, let's see if I have this correct. G_ _ _ _ _ was your grandfather and D_ _ _ was your dad. You were also booked at least four times for crimes, three dwi's and another for failing to pay child support.

You could very well be a confidential informant with many sock puppets. One alias you had, one in which you attacked Ralph Nader and third party politics as a fictitious college student, used your real first name. The fake last name was actually your real middle name with one added letter.

Your wife's name is Diana.

Go away. Tell your handlers I do know who you are and will keep posting clues if you don't leave me alone.

Lenny Fritos said...

It's confusing. Maybe George was your dad. It must be so much fun making up shit on the internet, Mr. Phony Borderline Stalker.