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Tuesday, May 22, 2012

Who Is Brett Kimberlin?

That's the title for Lee Stranahan's new video uploaded to youtube. It's actually called part 1. His related blog entry can be read here.

The only effective way to fight Brett Kimberlin is for as many people to research and write about him as possible.

So I’m declaring this Friday, May 25th as Everybody Blog About Brett Kimberlin Day.

Here’s what you do to take part…

1. Research Brett Kimberlin on your own. Don’t trust secondary sources; look for the orginal articles articles published about him, too.

2. On Friday, May 25th — write an honest, factually accurate post about what you learned and what your OPINION is. Brett may try and sue you, so be accurate, factual and separate fact from opinion.

3. The post doesn’t have to be long — ANYTHING helps.

4. After you post, Tweet, share, whatever — get the post out there.

This foolishness has gone on long enough.
Today Film Ladd blogged on the allegation that blogger Robert Stacy McCain "had to flee his home with his wife and family to an undisclosed location" because...

"Stacy fled because he believed that Brett Kimberlin, convicted domestic lefty terrorist bomber, was overly curious re: Stacy's geographic location."

I'm not saying it isn't true. Wasn't Patterico's home posted by a Team Numbnut member? Hasn't one of them recently broken court rules by snapping or attempting to a photo of Aaron Walker and then filing a bogus assault charge against him? I also agree with Film Ladd that such a thingie wouldn't be unexpected. However, this McCain statement sticks out like a sore thumb.
Nevertheless, my sudden relocation — The Mother of All Road Trips, as it were — will involve large expenses. We will have to rent a new house, pay people to pack up the belongings at our former residence, and move everything to the new location.

Remember that this is still a Shameless Capitalist Blog, and keep in mind The Five Most Important Words in the English Language . . .

One thing I definitely find unsettling is how many conservatives following and writing on this story are turning it into Repukelican versus Libtard rhetoric.

Film Ladd: As I said in my previous post, Social-Media Gate is the biggest story of the new century. Future historians will look back to this era as the beginning of the end of politics as usual, and the launch of the modern-day electronic equivalent of the Italian Borgias and Medicis. Rule by tribal political affiliations, with a dash of sword and social-media skulduggery.

And yes, I believe all of these roads lead to Obama, and yes, I think we'll have a messy third-world-style election come November. With a lot of people being forced to flee their homes in terror.

What does he mean by all roads lead to Obama? Hmmm, like Republicans don't practice dirty tricks on the internet? High profile Democrats suckered into donating to a con artist means they are into terrorising people with lawfare and other forms of harassment? I'm not saying Ladd is arguing that, but it sure seems he is conflating separate issues. Has he never heard of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove? Why can't righties blogging on this story keep their dogma out of it?

From the comments:
You're talking about Soros, who ratted out fellow Jews to Nazis, being worried about Kimberlin's conduct? You're talking about people happy to take money from a man who ratted Jews out to Nazis being worried about Kimberlin's conduct? The answer is no, they have no honor left; they never started with any honor.

Kimberlin is not a bug of the Democratic Party and the American Progressive Movement, he is a feature.. The Democractic Party has been nothing but a criminal conspiracy against the United States since Thomas Jefferson decided to not notice Aaron Burr and Tamanny Hall's corruption and intimidation as long as it bought him the White House.

You're talking about the Democrats, the party of slavery, seccession, segregation and now surrender.. The grubby little ward-heeler thugs have made common cause with leftist extremists and academic technocrats pushing a political religion that has failed everywhere on eartth it has been tried, at a cost of over 100,000,000 deaths, all for one last chance to loot the till.

And we as Republicans have elected spineless, vain , cowardly "representatives" who went along to get along rather than risk their own rice bowls, to the point where it may be too late to recover. Vote this fall like your life depends on it.
Here is more conflation and outright, hypocritical nonsense courtesy of the comments on Lee's youtube page.
What is it with Lefties and convicted bombers? If the Right embraced McVeigh or the Olympic Park Bomber as a blogger there'd be no end of hearing about it on the Cable News Channels. Thank you for posting this.

We need to know who the people are who finance this terrorist's organization.

Who is Brett Kimberlin? He's the Left's favorite convicted domestic terrorist after Bill Ayers.
Sure we need to know who the donors are, to inform them of whom and what they are donating to. More importantly, it'd be nice for investigations to take place in regards to possibly existent prosecutable crimes ranging from a spectrum including perjury, harassment both on and offline, and false police reports to commercial fraud. This story transcends left versus right.


Dustin said...

Great post.

You're right that this transcends left v right. I flinch when I see the comments that generalize liberals as Brett. We all fall prey to bias sometimes.

But in my opinion those donors who need to be informed should also reconsider how they came to donate to such a poorly documented charity at all.

And so should donors to right leaning orgs.

A.W. said...

Hey Seth,

You are right this is not a left v. right, thing. And some of us are pushing back from that narrative. I think I will, on twitter.

socrates said...

Thanks guys for the nice feedback. I wrote something similar on Patterico's new thread but am stuck in moderation.

I've noticed a bunch of you have pulled back. Including SarahW. And Patterico made a fine point of this today.

Dustin, I used to go door to door for Greenpeace. It was so easy to get people to donate. I'm not saying Greenpeace is bad. My point is it's easy to get someone to give money, if you hit on their emotions.

Most people work, have dinner, watch tv, and go to bed. Nearly every American whether right or left wants a better world. We only disagree on how to get there.

So for most, the only option they feel may be available to make a difference is to open up a checkbook. E.G., a few years back in my area a woman was found having faked cancer and was able to gather a substantial amount of loot before the fraud was discovered.

FilmLadd said...

"What does he mean by all roads lead to Obama? Hmmm, like Republicans don't practice dirty tricks on the internet?"

I'm just about the only "rightie" who's still interested in the DW operation. I've written multiple posts about it and continue to harp on it.

"High profile Democrats suckered into donating to a con artist means they are into terrorising people with lawfare and other forms of harassment? I'm not saying Ladd is arguing that, but it sure seems he is conflating separate issues."

I can see Barbara Streisand as not knowing. George Soros and The Tides Foundation? Not so much. Not with all that money. You google who you're giving that much money to.

"Has he never heard of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove? Why can't righties blogging on this story keep their dogma out of it?"

I believe Atwater has been dead long before Twitter was born. As for Rove? Sure, maybe he's got an internet team. Maybe they're into dirty tricks. Maybe. Give me some evidence that they're scaring people out of house and home, getting people fired out of terror, and smearing you directly, and maybe maybe maybe maybe I'll write on that.

But before we round around hunting down a bunch of maybes, is it possible you're projecting just a weee bit on the "dogma" thing?

socrates said...

FilmLadd, your blogging on Dan Wolfe is a dead end. It'll never be figured out who he is.

It's like Donkeytale commented on another thread. This is turning into an alternative reality game.

I've been there done that for what you are trying. I learned the hard way years ago that chasing anonymous trolls is pointless. That's why my focus turned to real people like the Speedway Bomber, Larisa Alexandrovna, Cliff Arnebeck, Brad Friedman, et al.

What are your best finds? What can you provide to the story other than that Weiner wanked himself in public with the photos ending up relayed to Breitbart via Stack?

Because the Weinergate story to me is very simple. There's the scandal that sank him. Then there's this convoluted aftermath which those of us involved want figured out and reported.

I'm not trying to belittle you. And I'm not trying to say woe is me or make me the center of it all. But a bunch of us have been truly victimised, while you are someone jumping in saying hey guys listen to me, and here's some popcorn.

What you're arguing here is precisely what I'm trying to convey is not helping anyone one bit. There's more to life and politics than Twitter and the internet.

If you want this to revert to repukelican versus libtard, we could easily go there. Hello Don Siegelman? What about Iran-Contra? What about Karl Rove and all those oher Republicans who lied us into war through their White House Iraq Group?

You want me to find you some links to Republican astroturfers such as the Rendon Group, Netvocates, and Advantage Consultants? You want to discuss how your ilk loves to claim Markos Moulitsas is a socialist despite his coming from the El Salvadoran oligarchy and as a big fan of the CIA he almost joined them? What about his Republican past? Did you know that Rauhauser used to be a Republican? Do you realise how idiotic righties sound when they claim Obama is a socialist? Or when they went after Clinton for cheating on his wife?

The question is Neal Rauhauser. He has been part and parcel of the fake left to go with Friedman, Brynaert, Leopold, Pitt, Larry Johnson, and countless other dumbasses.

If I had my way both sets of fake left demotards and the obnoxious wingnuts would be quarantined away from the political dinner table.

Seriously, buddy. You seem like a nice guy. But I've got better things to do than debate conventional right versus left political chatter. I sincerely believe both sides suck. As a leftier than thou, my heart will always remain with regular guys and gals.

I'm fascinated by how the bomber and Rauhauser have been exhibiting their madness in broad daylight. I think it's amazing that those two have been confirmed as associates. We always knew it, but now we have the proof. If you're gonna tell me those are real lefties, maybe I can get a loan from Lori Grace to buy some swampland then let you in on a great deal.